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Post #5649 Posted 6/8/2005 9:14:34 PM


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OK, problem is in this...

Female (and sometimes male) is born with it's Maiden Name, she (he) marries to her housband (wife) and changes last name. Or there might other reason for last name change... :roll: In most official record those two are separate fields, but Maiden name always remains as reference.
So, new, correct last name is Housbands Last name, but original should stay in it's original field.
So far I typed it all in Family name / Maiden name / Surname Field as I.e. Last_name born. Maiden_name, but in report it is listed under such name and not just under Last name, as it should be.

Suggestion. There should be Maiden name field and Last name field, and in Display should be Fist_name Maiden_name unless there is Last name present in which case Displayed should be First_name Last_name...

Is it understandable, possible :? ...



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Post #5650 Posted 8/18/2005 6:48:08 PM


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Woman should always be in the Family Tree with her maiden name. So is her husband. This is done for other researches can find them when they are looking for them.
What is done on most of the Genealogy programs is adding an event - Name Change with all the relevant data.
In GenoPro you can add a custom tag for this porpose. You add a Name Change tag with all the information you want to keep.
Post #5651 Posted 8/18/2005 6:48:08 PM


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What about the second last name field? I put this field for that purpose - a name change.

As for displaying names, you can pick what names you want to display on the genealogy tree.


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In dropdown there is no option to display just Second_Last_Name First_Name, or First_Name Second_Last_Name, and also Second_Last_Name (Maiden_Name) First_Name...

In all fields in dropdown none has Second(ary) Last name as prioritized. Maiden Name always has main role, but in many cases in records you'll first stumble upon Second Last Name (the name person had when it died)... Just if you get lucky you might find Maiden_Name.
As it happened, in all western civilization man was more important then his wife, and if you find some family record you'll mostly find her married last name much sooner then maiden name...

But that's just my opinion...



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Post #5653 Posted 8/18/2005 6:48:08 PM


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I can add those options. I did not knew those scenarios existed. Can you give me the list of formats you want?

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It took me some time, and I havent had it enough to check already existing list throughly, but it seams to me taht at least following options are missing... (still, altough it seams to me that some new options were added in few last beta's)

Title First_Name 2nd_Last_Name Suffix
Title First_Name 2nd_Last_Name
First_Name 2nd_Last_Name Suffix
First_Name 2nd_Last_Name
F. 2nd_Last_Name
First_Name 2.
2nd_Last_Name First_Name
2. First_Name
2nd_Last_Name F.

and maybe some aliterations with middle name, nickname...
I know that it might be confusing and time taking as there is already over 90 possible aliterations of those fields present in dropdown field...

And, as we are still on subject... is it possible to have a new tag (as there is allready Maiden Name and 2nd_Last_Name), like Married Name...
I know that initial purpose of 2nd_Last_Name was marriage, but what about more then one marriage...



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Post #5655 Posted 8/18/2005 6:48:08 PM
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Respect to the last names I only wanted to add the following and it is not for complicating the existence to Dan Morin. In the countries Hispanic, the last name had and has much importance (like in all the cultures). Before in 1864 the Civil Registry was created, all the individuals had four last names. Everything it makes difficult when a brother, for example, named different. Juan Perez Ortega de Altamirano Navarro and its other brother, Felipe Altamirano Pérez Ortega de Navarro Vergara. You observe the order and the difference of this one I complete last name. This was the second last name of the great-grandfather. It influenced the prestige and honor of the great-grandfather. This custom comes from the culture judeo-Christian applied in Spain. It would be impossible to add so many fields. So many cultures, so many customs in the towns of the world. I propose also outside that more flexible, until certain limit, to add and to delete the last fields. Remember that the way to to use the last names varies with time, and if we talked about to genogramas or genealogies, is why we faced history. Thanks.
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I meant: "Dernier Fields" instead of "Last Fields", sorry.
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The name format

Title First_Name 2nd_Last_Name Suffix

would be expressed as

%T %F %L2 %S

If you really need the formats listed above, I will add them. I don't want to add unnecessary formats. GenoPro already has 99 formats. Tell me your top 5 formats (in the % notation and I will add them). You can add parentheses and dashes if you want. If you are not sure, take a look at the XML file to see how those formats are expressed.


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I use them pretty often...

Here, female person is called and know mostly by their housband's last name, and if I keep the habit to put maiden name in Last_Name field, my only option is to put Wedded last name in 2nd_last_name field and then I lack the option to view it in a form:

name 2nd_last name (last_name)...

and all it's variations, as summed in a previous post...
For now, I'm used to edit Display_Name field...



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