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In searching for a way to define a non-child relationship, I noticed that we can use the Pedigree Link. However, I would like to use this Pedigree Link in a non-standard method. Basically, we can use this to define a link that is not direct association - such as child. Instead we can associate in other terms, such as school of thought - showing one person linked to a previous one, but not in a child-parent relationship. Another example is that of monarchs, where one is not necessarily the parent of the next in line. etc.
By allowing a non-standard Pedigree we can show the relationship (perhaps using a dotted line and a different color) and explain what that relationship is, without mandating a strict parent-child relationship
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GenoPro will eventually add another type of link: Social Relationship. The Social Relationship link will be similar to the Emotional Relationship, however will be used to describe social relationships, such as relationships between individuals and/or relationships between group of individuals. One of the use of the social relationship link is to create Ecomaps.
What you are describing however does not really fit well into the Social Relationship. Do you have a suggestion for a name? I want to keep the name "Pedigree Link" to describe pedigree relations, such as parent and child. The pedigree link is already complicated enough with the adopted and foster children. I will also add the "possible child" to the pedigree link, but don't want to go any further. Besides, the pedigree link is a link between an individual and a family. What you are describing is more a link between two individuals.
Please write me your suggestion...
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I am afraid I have not come up with anything clever for a name. The best I can think of is non-immediate-family lineage, indirect lineage, external relationship, extra-familial relationship, indirect relationship or non-lineal relationship. All of these names are a bit contrived, but if I had to choose one, it would be: indirect lineage. Perhaps someone else can suggest something better.
I don't really know what you have in mind with social relationships, but perhaps it can indeed go there. As long as there is an ability to describe the relation and link with some form of line. The point is to let one descibe a relationship between two or more individuals who may or may not have a blood relationship.
Keep in mind some possibilities:
1) Monarchs - be they blood relatives or having estabished their position via a coup.
2) Scholars and their schools of though - think of Plato, Aristotle, etc.
3) An association between people such as a hiearchy of a corporation or even a Mafia-type group.
4) An individual who is known to have an anscestor, but the exact connection is unknown. In such a case, a connection is displayed in some form, such as a dotted line, with a text associated to explain the connection
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Thanks for the suggestion. I will think of a solution.
I don't really know what you have in mind with social relationships, but perhaps it can indeed go there. The social relationships are designed to solve possibility #3 and they can be extended to all the others (#1, #2, #4). The question is not on the technical issue, but rather if those relationships are "different" and should have a category on their own. The goal is to do a good job; not just have a solution that works.
If you have other suggestions, please write them down. I made this topic "sticky" to draw attention. I am looking forward for suggestions from everyone.
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To have external relationships (outside from the parent/child relationship) is not exactly part of a family tree but could be of interest to some and could be described as "social relationship".
I.e. if you are a go-inbetween for a couple you are binded by this relationship for life in Japan, but there is no blood relationship. Witnesses for your marriage could belong into this category unless they are actual family members.
A doctor/patient or a lawyer/client relationship could be recorded.
However to have all these external relationships recorded through another feature still to be coded should not delay the release of the Version 2.0
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However to have all these external relationships recorded through another feature still to be coded should not delay the release of the Version 2.0[/quote]If there is a delay it would be 1 or 2 days. Such a feature would create a new category of links, yet reuse the same code as the emotional relationships.
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here is another non-blood line situation which occurs in my family.
my uncle (my fathers brother) married a woman who peviously had a male child with an unknown father. my uncle adopts this child and gives him
our family name. that child marries and has children under our family surname. those children are not blood related to us, but they are to my uncles wife. i have shown the difference by colouring their lines differently and inserting a text box to explain. a special symbol would be easier and could be reused as each of those children have children.
the situation is even further complicated as the same woman had two more children by another previous unknown father.
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The scenario you are describing is something GenoPro must deal with. I am not sure if there should be another type of pedigree link to describe this type of adoption, or use a different mechanism.
a special symbol would be easier and could be reused as each of those children have children. What would you suggest?
Forestarius, please do not write in CAPITAL letters. This makes the reading difficult and it is perceived as yelling. I have edited your post to display text in lowercase.
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I have the same situation... I resolved it with two relationships of an woman, (Relationship1 with an third person, Relationship2 with an family member) folowing by two different "child" links. One as biological child, and the other as an adopted...
That is what resembles the real situation the most!
- "εν οιδα οτι ουδεν οιδα" (Σωκρατησ) - "The only thing that I know is that I don't know anything" (Socrates)
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I'd like to add that a parent/child relationship line be included for stepparents and stepchildren. Were I to do my own genealogical chart, I could not accurately display the relation between myself and the man my mother married.
He is not my biological father, but neither can I include how I'm related to him, since I'm not his foster child, and he did not adopt me nor my brother. I would love to have a "step" line.
Thanks!
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