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I played a bit with pixels , tried to uniformize the various Individuals tabs (pict on Top Right (TR) corner), whenever feasible and practical, added up some other users requests and came up with the following: 1) General tab: I re-arranged a bit around, most importantly set the DoB, DoD, Edu, Occu, Email ad, Home page and Home Phone fields to Read-only. The data of these fields will be input from the other relevant tabs. I also changed the gender choice to a drop down list because it was taking too much place. I kept the "Line Display" selector but full customization still to be done on the Display tab.
2) Birth tab: I removed the religion part. 
3) Death tab: I added up a Body Preservation part (Momification & Embalment). 
4) Religion tab: New tab because, depending on some Users and Religion, the input of several entries (like Edu and Occu tabs) could be necessary: Baptism, communion, Pilgrimage, ... 
5) Education tab: I added a Study Place field, as mentioned on another topic, and also added a place for the Picts. 
6) Occupation tab: I also added up a place for the Picts. 
7) Contact tab: Moved everything around and added up a Pict place, a Place Parent field and an Edit button. The tab looks similar to the others now. I didn't show the "Work Phone No." field for space reason but it's reachable through the Edit button. 
8) Pictures Tab: Moved the Pict place to the TR corner for consistancy with the other tabs. 
9) Sources tab: Same as 8). 
If you like my new proposal (or part of), you can implement it but probably after V. 2.0. I had a general view of the tabs, one by one as a slideshow, with my Nero PhotoSnap Viewer, and the result is quite good. Thank you.
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| One point I have mentioned is that the Summary tab could be renamed to Family or Relatives. The General tab is now a summary
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Famous Writer
      
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| I was most impressed with your ideas except for the Birth and Death tabs as I personally feel that the Birth and Baptism are more usefull on the same page as they are so closely related in most cases, and the same goes for the Death and Burial which are also closely connected. The photo insertion is a good one which I had hoped for, but I would also like a photo option for the birth and death tabs as well so that I can include the images of the registry entries.
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This is really cool. For sure, we will use some of your suggestions. Great timing too, because we are about to release v2.0..
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I agree that keeping Birth & Baptism together makes more sense... and then keeping Death & Funeral together. The latter has the DOB and Age at Death included, which is fine for calculating when one or the other is not given.
I also would like to see more room for comments on the General tab. Rather than 500 characters, I'd rather have it be 1000 or 1500, like most of the other tabs. I use it to collect miscellaneous data because not all the other comments fields are transferred to gedcom format. Mark
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| Impressive work, I like the idea that almost each tab have a picture in the upper right corner. A Gender combo drop-down gives more space in the general/summary tab.
If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts. -- Albert Einstein Jean-Claude Morin Information Technology Director, GenoPro. http://www.genopro.com
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Famous Writer
      
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| (1) About date of birth and date of death: Under the GENERAL tab, show them always international=gregorian=unconverted. Under the B & D tab, show them acc.to the user's choice of conversion. This way, you'll be able to present them in parallel both gregorian and converted/unconverted. (2) In case of multiple RELIGION tabs, please add the "Bar/Bath-Mitzwah" event type. (3) PAY ATTENTION: There has to be a total corespondence between the gender value as shown under the GENDER field as its value as shown under the PREVIEW. It should have been "space"+"unframed" or "male"+"quadrant" , ... but in no-way "space"+"quadrant" !
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Famous Writer
      
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Bear in mind that this topic is only a suggestion, compiled: a) from some previous Users requests b) taken into account the available space in each tab c) based on trying to please everyone. At the end, it's up to Genopro to implement or not, fully or partly. My order of thought when re-arranging the tabs is as follows:1) create a new religion tab. I'm not a religious man myself but for many users, religion is a very important fact in life and should therefore be dealt separately. As many religious events can take place in a lifetime, I provided a "Religious List" similar to the Edu and Occu tabs. I also agree with amfonda that Baptism (including godparents) and Birth go generally together but as baptism is, after all, a religious event, It should be within the Religion tab. By the way, does Baptism occur in every religion? Not to sure. I additionally suggest Genopro to write down a list of events, pertaining to each main religion in the world, and provide the basic fields which are most common to the said religions. 2) once I removed the religion part within the birth tab, the tab was half-empty. I then wondered what to add up to fill the gap. I then, logically to me, moved the death/deceased part from the crowded death tab with the birth data. This shows, at a glance, the life cycle of the Ind. I also thought to rename the tab "Life Cycle" but it was too long for the tab space and opted instead for "B & D". 3) once the death/deceased part was removed from the death tab, the space left allowed me to add up a "Body Preservation" part requested by King Semsem. Logical once again. 4) I set all pictures to the top right corner, also adding up picts for the Edu, Occu and Sources tabs. Up to Genopro to also add up picts on the B & D and Body tabs. 5) on the Gene tab, I changed the Gender panel into a simple drop down list field, for space reason and set 6 fields as Read-Only. These will have to be input and/or updated through the appropriate tabs. Note on the "Age" field: so far, I kept it on the Gene tab but it could be shifted to the B & D tab, if required. If shifted, I would then picture this field (on the Gene tab) as Read-Only, making the field Title/Name inter-active, and displaying "Age" for an alive Ind and "Age of Death" for a deceased Ind. As you may have noticed, the above proposed changes 1) to 3) are basically a chain reaction from one tab to the other. Up to Genopro for implementing: 1- the date conversion facility requested by Alfi 2- the renaming of the Gene and Summary tabs to Summary and Family/Relatives 3- more room for the Gene comment. This may be done as field "length" increase but doesn't mean to increase the actual comment window. 4- other Users request according to the to-do list. I also updated the initial: 1) Gene tab: I moved the Gender field. 2) on the Edu and Occu tabs, I added a "Set as Primary ...". This will allow to display, on the Gene tab, the primary related infos.
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| Hello all! I most liked the idea of the sources on the Edu and Occu tabs one note: On the Edu tab wich picture would be shown? is it the picture of the place of education or the picture of the document of education? and could it be chosen which picture to show on the tab? the same thing on Occu tab (picture of place or of the doc)? I think that the similar data has to be on the same tab so: birth as a beginning of life with the baptism and something like this, docs time, places etc.) death with the funerals and what comes after (cremations, body donations, places docs...) Here are no page for Achievements but it also could be done in the same way as Edu or Occu tabs with the same Pic in the RT, with the sources and places and dates and comments... this all described in the other topic. I see that First tab began to do the Show function - everybody wants to add something to make this tab as substitution of other tabs for lazy people. Was it intended for such a purpose?
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Famous Writer
      
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| Quote from Mantreat 12931: "On the Edu tab which picture would be shown? Is it the picture of the place of education or the picture of the document of education? and could it be chosen which picture to show on the tab?" I didn't suggest to change the concept of the Picts for Edu and Occu. I just added a place for display. I also assumed that the Study place field has been implemented, similar to the Work place on the Occu tab, to avoid any confusion. Say, you entered an Edu record: Primary school - click on the Edit button. - select the Pict tab and add up any Pict you want: diploma, school building photo, wee class mate, teacher's photo, anything. - set one of them as Primary. - click OK Back to the main Edu tab, the primary Pict you just set up should be displayed. That's all. If you want to input a 2nd Edu record, simply repeat the process. Same applies to the Occu and the Sources tabs.
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