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By 304904 - Saturday, July 7, 2007
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I currently use Legacy but am looking at Genopro. Obviously this is a bit of a a paradigm shift from the traditional genealogy program. I do like the data entry screens as they are more to my way of liking as a long time computer user.
I hope to further test over the next two weeks. But I wanted to know what folks felt were the main issues with Geneopro that they miss in more mainstream programs?
How does one do reports/book besides web pages?
I think the xml/other format support/export is a great idea.
why should I not switch today to genopro?
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By GenoProSupport - Saturday, July 7, 2007
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304904 (7/7/2007)
How does one do reports/book besides web pages?At the moment, GenoPro generates only web (HTML) pages. GenoPro 1.x was generating rich-text format (RTF) documents capable to be read and printed with a word processor such as Microsoft Word, however this feature was removed for two reasons: 1) The new report engine uses either VBScript or JavaScript which makes it extremely difficult to generate such content. Previous report engine was more a find & replace inside the RTF, so it was easy to create RTF templates. On the other hand, the old report engine had no facility to have local variables and do arithmetic. 2) RTF has no real support for Unicode. Since all the documents (family trees) in GenoPro are in Unicode, supporting RTF would be a real problem. We are investigating a document format XML-based. The new Microsoft Office uses an XML format, so it would be possible to generate such XML instead of RTF, however I cannot give you a date for this.
why should I not switch today to genopro? This is a strange question on this forum, because the majority of people posting on this forum do like GenoPro very much. If you want to know negative comments about GenoPro, you will have to look elsewhere. We value freedom of speech, so if someone write a negative comment, we will leave it in this forum, unless it is spam or very offensive.
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By 304904 - Sunday, July 8, 2007
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I did not mean to seem negative. Every program has it's issues. I'd simply like to hear people's views who use the software and what issues I might run into. It would seem report generation is one of the things that might be improved. Or maybe there are 3rd party tools or ways to do other reports?
I did read posts on Rootsweb and it looks like people either love or hate programs. It seems many folks can't get their head around the genogram and then they just write the program off. This is not my intent
so far I find genepro very much along the way my mind operates. But I think anyone can tell you it can take a while to find that one thing in a program that is a real pain. I only recently ran into this with Legacy and it is why I began to look at alternatives and XML capabilities of programs.
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By GenoProSupport - Sunday, July 8, 2007
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304904 (7/8/2007)
I did not mean to seem negative. Every program has it's issues.One of the weakest point of GenoPro is its Gedcom support. Gedcom is a standard for interchanging genealogy data among genealogy software. This is why GenoPro uses XML instead because Gedcom has too many shortcomings. GenoPro's report generator is the most powerful you can find. No other genealogy software offers anything close to this. For details, you are welcome to read http://www.genopro.com/essential-features/
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By maru-san - Sunday, July 8, 2007
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304904 (7/8/2007)
I did not mean to seem negative. Every program has it's issues. I'd simply like to hear people's views who use the software and what issues I might run into. It would seem report generation is one of the things that might be improved. Or maybe there are 3rd party tools or ways to do other reports?
I thought I had a perfect program when I found Legacy with regard to the reports. But my tree has grown and the reporting style of GenoPro has so much improved that I do not regret of having moved to this program only. Everyday you wait is a lost day. Legacy is a sleeping program on my PC and who wants to print 300 pages or more anyway. You can put the report on a CD and send the CD, which saves you paper and mailing fees.
And I find this support Forum excellent. You have questions and you get several answers. And you can participate in improving the program by making suggestions (almost instantly). Of course there are features you might want to have other programs have, but then the question is how often do you use those features. I then use the Gedcom function from the Report Generator and open with those programs, which have those features. But as I said, its only once in while.
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By IainTait - Monday, July 9, 2007
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I thought I had a perfect program when I found Legacy with regard to the reports. But my tree has grown and the reporting style of GenoPro has so much improved that I do not regret of having moved to this program only. Everyday you wait is a lost day. Legacy is a sleeping program on my PC and who wants to print 300 pages or more anyway. You can put the report on a CD and send the CD, which saves you paper and mailing fees.
And I find this support Forum excellent. You have questions and you get several answers. And you can participate in improving the program by making suggestions (almost instantly). Of course there are features you might want to have other programs have, but then the question is how often do you use those features. I then use the Gedcom function from the Report Generator and open with those programs, which have those features. But as I said, its only once in while. These are exactly my feelings due to my experience with Legacy  :
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By bogistad - Monday, July 9, 2007
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I have now been using GenoPro for a number of years so allow me to give it a plug. I looked at a number of others on offer (although not Legacy). My criteria was what I would call practical rather than technical. I needed a product which could be easily interpreted by my non-English speaking relatives living in various countries and the ability for them to enter data easily with their limited English knowledge. GenoPro for me met these requirements far better than the others I looked at and my relatives have never had any problems handling it. The other clincher is this forum. If you have problems, suggestions or the simplest of queries, you are treated with respect and your posts are always answered. I have since suggested GenoPro to a number of my friends who are now happy users themselves. Go for it, you won't regret it!
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By SutherlinHarbit - Wednesday, July 25, 2007
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304904 (7/7/2007)
why should I not switch today to genopro?
You mention you are a long time computer user - I pretty much live & die by my computer and PDA (my little "computer away from my computer".) You also mention that Geneopro seems very different from other "genealogy" programs - not necessarily to your dislike. Based upon those things, I can't think of a reason why you should not switch to Genopro today! :
I'm new to Genopro (just bought it a week or two ago) and am really not interested in genealogy. (gasp!) But I'm 50, have family scattered across the country & many of us have not seen each other in many years. I've also lived long enough to see many cherished family members pass on. The reason I love Genopro is that it has become my online family. Since I'm normally near a computer, I can view it anytime and anyone in my family, anywhere, can see it too. It's also nice when you hook up with a long lost relative, to be able to have them view the "album" and they can get caught up with what has happened in the family. (Assuming they are interested, which they may not be!) 
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By SutherlinHarbit - Wednesday, July 25, 2007
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bogistad (7/10/2007)
The other clincher is this forum. If you have problems, suggestions or the simplest of queries, you are treated with respect and your posts are always answered.
ABSOLUTELY!!!!! I came to the message board when I was still trialing Genopro. Before I plunked down my hard earned cash, I wanted to make sure I could do what I wanted to do. And when trialing a program, if I need to send any inquiries to the developer, how they respond (or not) often impacts my purchasing decision. (After all, if they ignore you when you're trialing, do you think they will treat you any better after you've bought the program????) What I found is that I received quick responses from various people and I was able to get answers to my questions.
Also, by perusing the existing posts, I learned even more!
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By Buttons - Sunday, January 27, 2008
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I am also trying Genopro an I have a website and will place the reports on my site.
I will have the report of my family on the site and the report of my wife's family also and that is a big problem because I have everything (index.html, default.htm ,etc ) twice and so it is a mess.
I use Netobjects Fusion for my site and the program put the reports in the html-folder.
How can I put TWO familytrees on ONE website??
Rico
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By appleshaw - Sunday, January 27, 2008
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Three options here (at least)
1 Put everything in one GenoPro file but split it into two parts using the GenoMap feature. This means that one display will be one family and the second for the other. However they are still linked to show the relationships. As a comment it is suggested that. as a rule of thumb. if you have more than about 200 people on a display it should be subdivided. having said that I have some twice that size.
2 Create the two separate files and load them to the GenoPro server and give them separate names there
3 Create separate directories in your own web space and load the separate files there so that they have different web addresses
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By Buttons - Monday, January 28, 2008
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Thanks for the quick reaction and the tree options:
i will try the first one to see if it works fine for the 2 different family's if it is not then i can do it in the second way and so I can place two links on my website to the the trees on the genopro server. For the third option I have to check with my provider if it is possible for me to have two
addresses.
Thanks again and if I can manage the problem I certainly wil buy the program.
Rico
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By appleshaw - Monday, January 28, 2008
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To get your report onto your website you would need an ftp program - there are several good free ones. When you connect to your web space you can then create two directories eg Mother, Father. You then load the reports there.
You will then use addresses such as www.ISPname/Father and www.ISPname/Mother.
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By Buttons - Tuesday, January 29, 2008
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Thanks again and I did buy the program and put my trees on the Genopro server!
Rico
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