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Posted Sunday, December 27, 2009 - Post #25156
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Hmm... I do have a few "loop" like structures, but I checked them, and they do not violate the time/space continuum. But there are a few creepy situations... My gggrandfather married his niece (Sisters daughter). I am a descendant of his second married... Whew!! Anyways...

I have run it with ONLY GenoPro running after a reboot, and still no joy. I am running GenoPro 2.01.6, and Kinship Calculator 2.01.7j. I am up to date. So, uh, Ron... FIX IT WILL YOU!!!!!! :Wink:

BTW, really do appreciate the time/effort put into this. Wish I knew how to do this stuff. I used to be able to program... In Fortran and Cobal. BigGrin:



Hey Ron,

Since this tool is so very useful, I took the challenge to get it to work again. Turns out, it was just one tab on my genogram that was the issue. After isolating each tab, and checking, I found the offender. I'm still not sure WHAT within that genogram is the issue. The good news for me, is that it's an extraneous genogram for me. It's extended research for another member of the family. So, I can take my time finding what exactly in it is causing the run-time error. I'll find it though, and pass it on. It's probably NOT important, but you never know.



But, I have a another issue...

Is there a way to show the relation in both directions?? For instance, my grandnephew - My sister's son's son. He is my grandnephew, but I am his??? Well, I know, great uncle. But I can't not get the Kinship Calc to show that. I have tried selecting me them him, him then me... Same result.

Is there a way to show this relationship in both directions when the report is generated??


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Posted Monday, October 11, 2010 - Post #26691
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I am interested in the kinship calculator, and extracted the file (only one) from Kinship_2.0.1.7j.zip, which is named Kinship_2.0.1.7j, and put it in the Skins folder C:\Program Files (x86)\GenoPro\Skins.  The problem is when running GenoPro, no kinship skin appears in the Report Skin pulldown list.
Posted Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - Post #26693
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Did you follow the instructions in the first post in this theme: http://support.genopro.com/FindPost22844.aspx ? In particular, did you create a sub-folder entitled 'Kinship Calculator' in the Skins folder?
Posted Wednesday, August 10, 2016 - Post #37307
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So... I was thinking about how useful a relationship calculator would be in GenoPro after my recent post regarding my Icelandic ancestors here... and I found this thread from six-plus years ago.

I'm curious as to whether this report skin has been kept updated and if it works with the current version of GenoPro. I suppose there's an easy way to find out...

What would be really nice, however, is if we had a relationship calculator built into GenoProX. For those who are stubborn enough to do this manually, I found this great chart a while back:

http://support.genopro.com/Uploads/Images/f1d8cf00-1d4d-4826-a1a0-1ccf.png


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Posted Thursday, August 11, 2016 - Post #37309
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The Kinship Calculator skin is included with the GenoPro 2016 download and as far as I know is still working. If not let me know and I'll fix it. 

I used a similar chart when writing to skin what seems an age ago. I agree it would be nice to have it built in to GenoProX.


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Posted Friday, August 12, 2016 - Post #37310
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I am in the process of "Webifying" (is that a word? It is now!) my tree with geni.com (I'm using them because I have a distant relative who has already done a lot of the work for the later generations on there and it seemed silly not to (a) take advantage of that and (b) contribute my own findings to fill in the blank spots). GenoPro remains my go-to program for my tree construction, as Geni still has some major shortcomings, such as not being able to display multiple sets of parents simultaneously (as I've already mentioned elsewhere, my Icelandic great-grandmother was adopted, and I now have her biological ancestors tracked down as well as her adopted family). Anyway, the reason I mention Geni is because they have a kinship calculator built in... the catch is that it only works for finding the user's relation to another specific member of their tree. I think GenoPro can do better than this, and give us something that works for any two selected individuals.

GenoPro developers: The challenge has been made. Are you ready? BigGrin


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Edited: Friday, August 12, 2016 by Jakk
Posted Friday, August 12, 2016 - Post #37311
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So... it seems that the report skin crashes GenoPro for any relationship more complex than those that I can calculate for myself within a reasonable time frame... although I admit that the latter is only possible because I know the data so well. I'm not sure if this crashing is because of the code, or simply because my system is running out of memory... although I don't get a memory-related error message; GenoPro just crashes and I get the usual notification to send error report data to Microsoft.

It seems to have difficulty with anything other than a direct ancestor-descendant relationship if the generation gap is more than ten generations. A 20x-great-grandparent/child report works fine.

Oh, and just a little thing, but it would be nice (and this goes for all report skins) if it would create a new tab to report the results instead of using the currently open tab. I lost my report in order to post this reply, because the reply was in progress at the time the report finished. I'm just glad that I didn't lose my reply. Smile

For one test, I got some interesting "tag no longer valid" messages... I have copied and pasted them below.

[15.74] The tag 'Family.Marriage.religious.date' is no longer valid. Try 'Family.Marriages(0).Date'

[15.74] The tag 'Family.Marriage.civil.date' is no longer valid. Try 'Family.Marriages(0).Date'

[15.74] The tag 'Family.separation.date' is no longer valid. Try 'Family.Marriages(0).Divorce.Date'

[15.74] The tag 'Family.Divorce.date' is no longer valid. Try 'Family.Marriages(0).Divorce.Date'

[15.77] The tag 'Occupation.Start.Date' is no longer valid. Try 'Occupation.DateStart'

[15.77] The tag 'Occupation.End.Date' is no longer valid. Try 'Occupation.DateEnd'


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Edited: Friday, August 12, 2016 by Jakk
Posted Saturday, August 13, 2016 - Post #37312
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If you can PM me with a test file and a note of which individuals to select I can look into this issue to see if the scriot is at fault.

My default browser (Chrome) always opens report output in a new tab. If you are using IE then you should look at your  'Internet Options / Tabs / Open links from other programs' settings.


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Edited: Saturday, August 13, 2016 by genome
Posted Saturday, August 13, 2016 - Post #37313
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Thanks for the settings tip. I thought I'd checked through all of those. My bad. Blush

As for the error messages, my scripting skills are rusty to the point of collapse, and I have done nothing with GenoPro in this regard. How do I tell which objects are generating the errors?


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Posted Saturday, August 13, 2016 - Post #37314
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Another question just occurred to me: How does your script deal with multiple lines of ancestry between the same two people? For anyone else who hasn't yet truly fallen down the rabbit hole that is genealogical research, this is far more common than you might think.

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