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Posted Monday, July 29, 2013 - Post #32093
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hi. 

i think it is very problematic.  When someone had two wives, for example like in this case1 .

it is hard to determine, if the child2 or child3 or child4, who was their mother? it is not an easy to say directly, because there is a straight line.

i think, it is better, that the diagram should be like the case2:

with the first wife, the line should be a bit thick, and with the second wife, there  should be a different colored dotted line + with her children.






http://i42.tinypic.com/rvegz7.jpg


Edited: Monday, July 29, 2013 by tazosmr
Posted Monday, July 29, 2013 - Post #32094
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You need to modify the diagram and then it can be quite clear.
http://support.genopro.com/Uploads/Images/25ef4476-bb52-4bce-8479-02b1.jpg
Posted Monday, July 29, 2013 - Post #32097
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The problem with your solution, Appleshaw, is that if child1 and child2 have a family, it is difficult to hang their children off them (the pedigree link would intersect the second marriage line).

I have always used the case1 solution and have had no problems with anyone understanding it. Using case2 (different coloured dotted line) to me indicates that the relationship with "wife2" is something other than a marriage.

I guess at the end of the day, it's whatever each person finds visually appealing.
Posted Monday, July 29, 2013 - Post #32098
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appleshaw

no, it is not a solution. why to start searching and manually modifying the diagram?it is very non-flexible and even hard.. i have the huge diagrams, and cat do that manually.



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And let there be an option. i.e. If it is not appealing for you, for me - it is a good solution. Let there should be a checkbox - if user wants, disables the dotted line for second marriage. But, by default, let it be a different lines.


Even, in the above picture, i have indicated, that they are wife1 and wife2, but on the program diagram, there appears only people's names, and it is even hard to know only by names, if wife1 and wife2 may be a husband-wife  (because sometimes male and female names are not easy to diversify). so, i think, that it is essential to diversify the second marriage.


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Maybe this will give some hint. 


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Posted Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - Post #32100
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I think, this is the best solution :: )




http://i44.tinypic.com/5ec17s.jpg
Posted Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - Post #32102
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If you use the built in GenoPro features you can convey a lot of information.
I prefer to use the grid as a graph to indicate relative ages. You can get people of similar age at different generations. Some people prefer to keep generations parallel. Matter of preference.
I do not have a problem with vertical lines crossing family lines and am quite happy to expand the family horizontally. Whatever format you choose might lead to a wide top family. One way round this is to use hyperlinks on the same display to take one sub family to the side.
The image below shows how complex family details can be shown.  The shape of the individual shows whether the person is male or female and in this case is showing a third relationship with adopted children. This can also now be a marriage in some countries.
I find that automatic generation of family diagram is only useful for simple cases and would always re-arrange to get the best view. There are so many possibilities that the automatic arrangement can not be expected to satisfy everyone
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i dont meant that, but i just meant, that its good if there was just an option (checkbox in settings, or somewhere) and if i check it, it will show the second marriages (and the lines to the second wife's children) with different line. thnks. bye.
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Posted Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - Post #32106
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The ability to create genograms to suit my family - not some hard fast rules which only complicate the layout. I use graphics to make it easier to understand where everyone fits relative to the rest of the family.  This is why I chose this software as no other package I have seen come any where near this for clarity. The example below is what I use to illustrate talks I give to various genealogical groups. This family arrangement is very common in colonial NZ in the 1880's with wives dying young and husbands having accidents.  I never use the Auto Arrange.

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I agree that a graphical display helps explain family links to otheres, and you can not expect auto arrange to cope with the sort of family yoy show.
Having said that I could not immediately understand it but used bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz to check details. I think this is a good example of where a hyperlink makes things easier to understand what happened. A coloured emotional link line could be used to emphasise things.

http://support.genopro.com/Uploads/Images/f86dea82-264d-469c-9c52-a1b9.jpg


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