By Justanne - Sunday, May 28, 2006
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Hi there, I've been using Genopro for over 2 years now & have got myself in a real mess, having upwards of 200 seperate files/trees saved on my computer. 
You see the original tree got too big, so I chose to start a new one for each branch of the family, by saving the original one & then using "save as" to create a new file, deleting the individuals not necessary for that particular family ............. I'm very well organised, each file is saved under the family name & the generation number, and I can find my way around it very easily BUT now I want to publish my findings as a whole huge tree & don't know how to go about fixing the whole lot together again !!! I am NOT technically minded - I suffer from severe M.E. & am housebound & mostly bedbound - so the family history research is a very important part of my life. However I don't want all my hard work to be lost, when I'm either unable to continue, or when I pop my clogs ( a northern English term for dying!!!) Can someone please offer some VERY SIMPLE advice please ? Thanks in anticipation
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By V.L.o - Sunday, May 28, 2006
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I cannot recall other way but to: 1. create a new file and 2. copy/paste data from all single families files, one at the time... 3. When you do it you "just" have to remove overlapping individuals, and then 4. connnect individuals with their parent's/children's families... with "link as ..." command. Simple enough? If the trees become too complicated, consider creating of an Internal hyperlink of a person to another genomap, and continue from there on...
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By jcmorin - Sunday, May 28, 2006
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Use GenoMaps and Hyperlinks in a single file. See: how to merge two separate family trees See also: Internal Hyperlinked Families There is good example of GenoMaps usage over familytrees.genopro.com http://familytrees.genopro.com/poolzone/history/ http://familytrees.genopro.com/iaintait/ http://familytrees.genopro.com/appleshaw/NorthBradley/
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By crash893 - Sunday, May 28, 2006
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if you send it to me i would be willing to take a shot at it
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By Justanne - Monday, May 29, 2006
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Now there's a brave person !!! I might well take you up on that, if I get stuck !!!  Thanks for all the advice - I've made a start by going through each file & deleting some that are/were duplicated, so I reckon I'll be down to 100 in no time !! After that, I'm going to have a go at sorting these hyperlinks - once I can get that done, I reckon I'll be on my way to getting the whole thing together (she says hopefully!!!!).
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By Justanne - Monday, May 29, 2006
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I'm struggling with this hyperlink thing ! I've only ever used the basic Genopro - I do have Genopro Beta, but it seems to do strange things to my files - children aren't attached to parents & so on. 
I'll keep trying, but since I've had this blinking M.E. the "brain-fog" makes the most simple tasks seem so blinking difficult. (SCREAMS!!!!) Ah well, back to the deceased family ...............
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By Justanne - Monday, May 29, 2006
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Why can't I open the new files I've created in Genopro Beta, in Genopro ?
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By Yehudad - Monday, May 29, 2006
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Justanne (5/29/2006) Why can't I open the new files I've created in Genopro Beta, in Genopro ?GenoPro Beta has a different file structure than GenoPro. Thus, you can open the old files in the Beta, but you can't open the new ones with the old version. However - GenoPro Beta creates a third file: "YourFile.v1x.gno". This file you can open in the old version, as GenoPro Beta saves it in the old file format.
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By V.L.o - Monday, May 29, 2006
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GenoPro beta creates files of different type, and besides xyz.gno, also creates redundant copies xyz.v1x.gno (compatible with GenoPro you are using v1.xx) and xyz.xml. If you really need to open files with "old" GenoPro, the only version you can use is xyz.v1x.gno, but, it doesn't support many features from within GenoPro beta (as genomaps, many types of relationships between persons etc.) so they won't be preserved in v1x version file! If you choose to open xyz.v1x.gno with Beta, on exit it will save copies under names xyz.v1x.gno, xyz.v1x.v1x.gno, and xyz.v1x.xml... so try to avoid it... It complicates things... I know that "beta" sounds as if it is only a half-product, but I have to recommend it. It's as stable as "older" versions, has many new features.... But, just in case, at the end of a day, make a copy of your file to place other then default folder... I strongly suggest it
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By Justanne - Monday, May 29, 2006
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THANKS, I just discovered that !!! To think I've been using Genopro for 2 years & not noticed that !!
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By crash893 - Tuesday, May 30, 2006
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I agree about the beta
i have been running whatever version that was released right before it had a evaluation period
and its never given me any problems
have you figured out how many trees you actually ahve
i still want a shot at the tittle
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By Justanne - Friday, August 18, 2006
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Thanks for ALL the advice, it was very welcome. I haven't quite finished (well actually am nowhere near half way through!!) going through all the various files I had saved - it has taken me ages, but then I did have a break while we had our unusually hot English summer !! AND every time I started I found another individual I'd always meant to find out more about - which sent me off task & into my researcher-mode rather than the mega organised recorder I'd like to be !! I'm back on the case now. I might still take up the offer to sort me out, if I get really stuck. Part of my problem is the fact that I'm not really all that interested in the perfect accuracy of my lineage - I'm much more interested in the social history aspects of the research, which means the recording of my findings very often becomes a bind ! I have had a lot of "possibly" , "probably" & "either /or" ancestors, most of who, I have to say, have turned out to be correct, after further research, which is why I'm reluctant to publish some of my findings on the website, until they can be proved to be correct. Is that silly ? I am quite happy for people to challenge my findings, if they feel they need to do so. Is there scope to do that ? I DO like the way Genopro works, it is far superior to any of the software that many of my friends have, but I do find it rather complicated as it becomes more sophisticated - but then I wonder if that isn't that just typical of the human aging process ?
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By IainTait - Friday, August 18, 2006
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I have been using GenoPro since before the betas and bought GenoPro Gold at that time and have been continually amazed and delighted by the Beta updates once I had discovered them. I had originally posted my tree (with errors) on my own web site which incited a few comments and corrections which were most welcome. I then started using Scotlands People as my family is originally Scottish and found loads of cousins to add to my tree of which I was especially happy about the living cousins on my father's side which up to then had been difficult to trace.Unfortunately Scotlands People is not free and if you are unsure of whom to look for it can get expensive but used wisely it has proved very helpful and I now have masses of birth, marriage and death registry images to confirm the ancestry. After this I uploaded my updated gedcom file to Genes Reunited and was immediately bombarded with requests and offers of information which resulted in my tree doubling in size and giving me contacts with more lost cousins on both sides of my family including my father's. Finally I took advantage of the GenoPro offer and uploaded my tree to this site with my costomised skin as a safeguard to my web site. I will be updating this tree in the autumn as so much new info and photos have arrived since I posted it that it is now very much out of date. I don't know what I would have done without this incredible software and have been able to help quite a few of my cousins and other researchers by recommending they try it, all of whom have been delighted with it. My tree is now huge as it contains lots of connected families which have even shown multiple connections between several families and as it grows and the fact that it is on line, it can help other researchers which is most gratifying to all concerned. It's all about sharing!
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By Justanne - Sunday, July 8, 2007
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I know this is over a year ago since we were discussing this topic, since then life hasn't been kind to myself & my family & the family history stuff got abandoned. I'm going away on holiday on Wednesday, but when I get back, I'm going to have a SERIOUS look at my family history files. I still can't get my head around how to fix all my trees together, the task is just going to be too huge to contemplate !! I have tried to tidy them up a bit & delete duplicated stuff, but it's still looking like a very complicated job to me, I need a wizard ........... Is Merlin out there somewhere ? I really do want to get my family tree out there for folks to share, but have no idea where to begin. Any help would be gratefully received.
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By GenoProSupport - Sunday, July 8, 2007
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This is not an easy thing to do. One solution is having a "scratch GenoMap" where most of your overlapping individuals are stored. When you recognize one individual, typically via the Table Layout, you move it to another GenoMap. Then, use the feature "Move Family to GenoMap" (hotkey V) and GenoPro will bring his/her the family to the new GenoMap. You can repeat until you are satisfied with the new tree.
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By appleshaw - Sunday, July 8, 2007
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Looking at past posts I am not sure if you have moved on to GenoPro2007. If not then you ought to do so as it is the released version and will make your task easier. A purchase of the earlier version includes license for the latest one.
If you have this version with multiple GenoMaps (display) then you can assemble all of your files into one file but keep them separate - Dan's Scratch file. Open one of your files and then the second one. Copy the second file into GenoMap 2 of the first. (Ctrl-A will select; Ctrl-C to copy and Ctrl-V to paste after you have moved to GenoMap 2 of file 1) - You can of course use the mouse to get these commands from the Edit menu.
At this point I would save the file as Scratch (or other memorable name) and then repeat the process for all the other files. After using GenoMap 3 you will need to create new ones by putting the cursor at the bottom (on one of the tabs) and right click followed by Insert GenoMap.
Having assembled the data then comes the problem of sorting it. If you open the table (Ctrl-T) and sort by name or similar property (eg date of baptism) Then you can identify duplicate records. It may then be possible to delete some at this stage. However save the whole file first and then save the modifications with a different name.
Hope this helps
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By Justanne - Wednesday, September 5, 2007
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I discovered Genopro2007 today ! It's excellent !
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