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By boydgray26 - Tuesday, November 21, 2006
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I am not an expert, or indeed a novice, at web design so I have read through all five pages of this forum before asking this question. So far, I am delighted with the results I have achieved by using the new Report Generator to publish my GP tree online. However, I would like to go further. I would like to be able to add Excel databases of BMDs, maps, charts and other articles. I would also like to add links to useful websites for Ulster genealogy. From what I have read so far, would I be right in saying that it is not possible to do any of this just yet but that it is planned for Version 2.0? However, I also read that it is possible to include files in "skins" and that someone has put music onto a site. Can you direct me to the section of the support pages which will tell me how to do this. Update: a new "ftp client" tool has been released: http://www.genopro.com/help/ftp-client/
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By jcmorin - Tuesday, November 21, 2006
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The final release of GenoPro 2.0 should be available by the end of this month (November 2006). We have a new website ready for the launch, which includes the documentation of the Report Generator. In the meantime, you are welcome to take a look at the source code of the English Narrative English. Just click on the "Edit Skin" button and GenoPro will create a directory containing all the source code for this report. Take a look at Config.xml to see your options to tweak your report.
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By appleshaw - Wednesday, November 22, 2006
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The facility you are looking for is already available although rather hidden. Look at
http://familytrees.genopro.com/appleshaw/test/
Go to Joe Bloggs and click on certificate. This will open a sub frame 'certificate' with a URL in it. This will load an html page (not relevant but to demonstrate)
There is another link 'data' which provides a URL for a wk3 file. On my browser this provides a link to download the file or to open it with the default spreadsheet program.
If you were to use a facility such as the Google spreadsheet this would probably work without problems. Similarly images and documents should be no problem as most browsers will be configured to recognise these file types.
Final note: you have to use the full URL - no abbreviation of the http bit.
Where to put it? On the Sources tab is a box Repository. If you edit the tab (box bottom right) there are extra boxes to place a local reference or URL - and test if they work
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By boydgray26 - Wednesday, November 22, 2006
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Thanks for trying to help me but it was really way too difficult for me. I got as far as trying to either open or save the data file and with both, my computer tried to open Windows Professional, which I do not have, even when I tried to open it with Excel, which I do have. The file when downloaded was only 1kb, so there cannot have been much in it. I think I will be better waiting for the new version and following a set of simple instructions as workarounds are beyond my abilities.
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By boydgray26 - Wednesday, November 22, 2006
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Good lord, that was scary! I had a look at both Individual.htm (which you suggested elsewhere) and config.xml and felt like I was holding a fragile eggshell! I quietly closed both before I did any damage. Thanks anyway, I will just wait patiently for the new version. If it isn't obvious how to add extra data then, I will have to give up a bit disappointed.
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By Poolzone - Thursday, November 23, 2006
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I would like to be able to add Excel databases of BMDs, maps, charts and other articles. I would also like to add links to useful websites for Ulster genealogy I hope the following will encourage you to grow your Report for the benefit of all who read it. Please follow this method for including ANY of the above easily into Genopro. I am assuming that you are using Familytrees.genopro.com to host your Report. Double click on an individual on your tree to enter the 'properties dialog'. Enter a source title/source name and then double click the line it is stored on in the table at the bottom of the page called 'source list' This will show the Source/citation properties dialog. In the field 'Source File or URL' you can enter the Web reference for the file you want to reference or browse to locate it. If it's a Web site for example, then that is that. NOW, the hard part. Your file must be on a server connected to the Web. With Genopro, files are uploaded to the server by the Report Generator. When using the Report Generator we generate a Custom Skin, and when on the 'Generate Report' dialog we can choose 'edit skin'. In here if we place a file such as say 'MY.xls' being an excel reference to be viewed on your genopro report. So copy your excel file to this directory. Your reference in 'Sources' for this file will be 'http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/GrayGordon/MY.xls' Of course it won't be there now, as you have to upload it via the Report generator. I commend you to give it a go. There is a sample of the results of such an entry at http://familytrees.genopro.com/poolzone/test3/ look at member 5B.
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By IainTait - Thursday, November 23, 2006
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This is a neat idea, I personally hadn't thought of putting an URL in the sources.
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By boydgray26 - Thursday, November 23, 2006
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I am sooooo disappointed! Thanks to your brill guidance Poolzone, I nearly did it! But not quite, dammit! I now have a Sources Button on my site that wasn't there, and when I click on it, it shows that there is a map of the Bann valley Area!! Click on it and you get the url I copied in just like you said - http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/GrayGordon/MacosquinOSMap02.jpg. But then when you click on that.......... it says, "Page NOT Found!  Where did I go wrong?I chose a map of the area my folks came from, about 300 kbs, copied it to the directory that popped up when I double clicked Edit Skin - just under all the IE files such as toc_trees.htm. I did NOT open any of these and try to put it in there - such as the "individual" one which someone suggested yesterday. I then copied my url from my site into the Source File or URL window, deleted the default.htm bit at the end and added the title of the map file - just as it is above. There is one vague area you haven't mentioned. Under the Options tab of the Report Generator, it says that the skins are located in a file called C:\GENEALOGY\GENOPRO\Skins\, whereas I the directory where I placed the map file was actually C:\GENEALOGY\GENOPRO\Skins\Customized English Narrative Report. I have tried using both to generate the report, with no difference in the result. I feel I am so close................. but will have to wait til tomorrow night to try again - if you can explain where I went wrong.
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By boydgray26 - Thursday, November 23, 2006
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Hold the front page!!! I have just repeated the procedure with an xls database - and it worked!!!! Thank you Poolzone! Any ideas why the map jpg didn't work - and still doesn't?
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By maru-san - Thursday, November 23, 2006
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If it is just a picture you want to show under sources, just edit the source and go to the picture tab, browse for the picture you want to show and confirm this. For the picture you do not need to enter a URL entry.
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By Poolzone - Thursday, November 23, 2006
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I have just repeated the procedure with an xls database - and it worked!!!! I am pleased with your last message. It means that your only problem with your .JPG file should be either 1. The file name has been incorrecty entered or 2. The file has not been uploaded. Either way you need to audit these things carefully. Try locating the file first by typing the address directly into the address bar of the browser. If you cannot find it, then neither can Genopro. Upload it again. Hint...300k is still a very large file. Try changeing it to a .PNG file to vastly improve the performance. This should work fine for any line drawings like maps, but do not use for ordinary photos.
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By boydgray26 - Friday, November 24, 2006
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I'm getting there. Thanks for all your help. I have managed to upload two extra pages onto the Sources Button - but failed with two more even though I used exactly the same procedure and one success is a word doc while another word doc failed. I even swopped them round and the same one failed. I have the two docs sitting side by side almost in the same directory within skins. It must be something very simple but I cannot think what. Anyone any ideas? My website is at: http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/GrayGordon/default.htm It's looking better and better and I have lots more ideas to enhance the front page. Do I get one blue square yet?
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By boydgray26 - Friday, November 24, 2006
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You're right - typing the file into the browser works for two but not for the other two - but I have checked and rechecked - the file names are right - I even abbreviated one to "macmap" to make a mistake impossible - and it was still missing. In fact, it opens my site! Thanks for the hint re file size - i will sort that when i get this problem sorted.
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By Poolzone - Friday, November 24, 2006
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In fact, it opens my site If it opens as your Report then it has failed to find the file. The URL must be wrongly named or the file is not there. Please double check that your URL and FILE NAME are exactly the same. If you think this is true, then post a screenshot from the Sources Dialog and I will check it for you.
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By GenoProSupport - Friday, November 24, 2006
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You may get a 404 Error (File Not Found) even though the file is there. For security reasons, some web servers, including Microsoft IIS (Internet Information Server) does not serve files of unknown extensions. For instance, a .gno file will never be found unless you manually configure the MIME types.
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By Poolzone - Friday, November 24, 2006
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some web servers, including Microsoft IIS (Internet Information Server) Boydgray26 has hosted this document on the server at Genopro. He is trying to access a Microsoft Word document. I would suggest that a .TXT file would be better suited as more users can access this file format.
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By GenoProSupport - Friday, November 24, 2006
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Try http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/GrayGordon/pictures/MacosquinOSMap02.jpg instead. You forgot to include Pictures in the URL. By the way, linking to http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/GrayGordon/CivilDeathsRegister261006.xls works fine. poolzone (11/24/2006)
Boydgray26 has hosted this document on the server at Genopro. He is trying to access a Microsoft Word document.I can confirm the server GenoPro.com is configured to serve .doc files. I double-checked the MIME types and the .doc extension is registered as a valid extension to deliver the file the client/visitor.
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By boydgray26 - Friday, November 24, 2006
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Ahem................ all of a sudden, without me doing anything different, and after several reloads, it worked. I am very pleased but a bit worried cause I don't know what the problem was. Thanks anyway for everyon's help, especially Jon.
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By appleshaw - Saturday, November 25, 2006
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One or two comments here. If you are going to put a document on a web site it is easier for the user if you convert it to htm format. This will preserve most of the formatting and can probably include pictures although they may end up in different positions. Most word processors will save as an htm file in addition to their native format. If you do not have Word available then open source programs will do it for you eg Open Office
Another way to fully preserve formatting is to save it as a pdf file.
Problem will be to put them on the GenoPro site - which will become possible when the ftp utility is implemented
Secondly GenoPro does have another option to reference web files. Have another look at
http://familytrees.genopro.com/appleshaw/test/
This is based on the work around set out at http://support.genopro.com/FindPost10472.aspx
This is useful for adding a few web references to your home page - as in the test. If you want to copy this to your document then the steps are
1) Copy the text at the end of this message (between the ****s) and put it into the Description pane of the Document tab of the Report Generator
2) Edit the file home.htm of the skin. If you can not find this it may be that it has not been unpacked. In the Report Generator click on the arrow of the box 'Skin Name' and check if a Customized Report exists. If not then click the button New Skin which will create it. You can then edit the file which will now exist under the GenoPro Beta program file.
3) Find the line containing | @[Report.WriteText doc.Description ]@ |
This was at line 34 in my version. Delete the letters 'Text' to producre @[Report.Write doc.Description ]@ and save the file.
4) In the Report Generator select the Customized skin and generate the report
I hope this will all work
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A Map of the Bann Valley Area
- all the main townlands mentioned in the text are shown in pink
A database of Civil Deaths
- consisting of the Gray, Gordon and associated families registered in Coleraine and Ballymoney
A Report on the Search for the Boyd name
- this is how the passion for genealogy began.
A History of the Reverend William Boyd
- this man organised the first mass emigration of the Presbyterians of the Bann Valley to New England in 1718 and he may be my ancestor.
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By boydgray26 - Saturday, November 25, 2006
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Hi there (Appleshaw), Hey, I've got a Blue Square! Just been reading your post re adding extra pages to my document. I hope you won't think I am ungrateful, but it just way too scary for me to do that - opening htm files and changing the script within them is a recipe for disaster for a novitiate like me. I bit like putting a 17 year old at the wheel of a Porsche Carrerra. Way too scary. Also, since you last visited, I have successfully added a Links (Web References) page - it should be there now. And it works. (Although there is no right click - Open in a new window option, so browsing takes place within my Report pane) However, I have looked at what you did at: http://familytrees.genopro.com/appleshaw/test/ and it looks much better than mine because the links are there in the pane instead of having the pain of opening a new document! This is way better but I am just too scared to try it yet. I will practise on what I have so far, keep the workaround to which you refer, along with your posting, and come back to it when I have progressed to the "Two Blue Square" level!! Oh, your losing of the spaces between the documents on my Homepage is better than mine and wll feature in my next update. Thank you very much. Boyd
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By maru-san - Saturday, November 25, 2006
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appleshaw (11/25/2006)
Problem will be to put them on the GenoPro site - which will become possible when the ftp utility is implemented
There is a work around for this. Put the pdf file into the images folder or a subfolder of images and make your reference to this location. The file will be transferred to the familytrees.genopro.com site.
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By jcmorin - Saturday, November 25, 2006
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maru-san (11/25/2006)
There is a work around for this. Put the pdf file into the images folder or a subfolder of images and make your reference to this location. The file will be transferred to the familytrees.genopro.com site.Every file from the skin will be copied to the output report (familytrees.genopro.com). For instance the javascript file is copied without any transformations. Yes, you can add your files/images/pdf/attachments to the skin folder until the "ftp" client will be available.
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By appleshaw - Saturday, November 25, 2006
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because the links are there in the pane instead of having the pain of opening a new document!
That is what I thought. However do not be put off by the long list of instructions. They appear to be much more complicated than they really are because I tried to put all of the steps in - in case people wanting to try the idea have not come across any of the features.
To put your mind at rest you can not muck anything up as the main skins used by GenoPro are hidden from the likes of you & me.
Secondly you should not affect your GenoPro data as the changes are only in the Report Generator. I would, in any case, save the document with a different name as a back-up version - you never know when it might come in handy. I managed to delete a group of people from my working document and retrieved them from last month's back-up.
Finally of course you can check if it works by writing the report to disc. The links will still work there.
Give it a go! - that is if you think it is an improvement
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By GenoProSupport - Saturday, November 25, 2006
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boydgray26 (11/25/2006)
Just been reading your post re adding extra pages to my document. I hope you won't think I am ungrateful, but it just way too scary for me to do that - opening htm files and changing the script within them is a recipe for disaster for a novitiate like me. I bit like putting a 17 year old at the wheel of a Porsche Carrerra. Way too scary.There is no danger. If you screw up, you just have to delete your custom skin and try again. The built-in skin named English Narrative Report is embedded inside executable GenoPro.exe, so there is no danger for anyone to accidentally modify it. In the file Home.htm, changing | @[Report.WriteText doc.Description ]@ |
to | @[Report.Write doc.Description ]@ |
is the recommended way to insert HTML text. In the future, GenoPro will support built-in HTML tags directly in a comment. See Excluding comments from a report for better privacy for further details.
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By maru-san - Wednesday, December 13, 2006
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In the file Home.htm, changing | @[Report.WriteText doc.Description ]@ |
to | @[Report.Write doc.Description ]@ |
is the recommended way to insert HTML text.
This hint was very useful, since I could limit the number of specialized skins.
Since I have to make an English and a separate German report from the same gno file, how can I select the proper flash file from a subfolder, if I keep the home.htm untouched and include a script(?) for this in the Document Tab when making the report?
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