I am seeking to restrict view of a comment, but not the general comment field.  How do I go about doing this?  Should I create a custom tag called private comment?  If so, how do I exclude it from a report?

Danny

I am starting to be confused reading the various entries about the old and new privacy filters. Could you please describe how it should work by design. The main question is whether it should work for all individuals/families with particular status, or can be applied just to one individual/family. I think some more explanation (help file?) is needed.

May I take an example?

1. Open privacy tab in properties of an individual. 'Living individual' and 'Delete contacts' is marked by default.
2. Add 'delete pictures'. This should delete all pictures for that individual (?) 
3. Click OK. Now if I look into privacy filter of any living individual on any genomap I see 'delete pictures'...
4. Click on generate report. Privacy tab of generate report has 'delete pictures' on.
5. Generate report. All the pictures of that individual are shown.

Probably I miss something important, but what? Thanks.

Try it again.  Add the option 'delete pictures' to the living individuals, and enable that privacy profile before generating a report.  As a result, all the pictures from living individuals will be removed (you won't find a single picture of a living individual).

To exclude comments from an individual, just select the privacy profile "Private Comment(s)" for that individual.  The privacy filter will delete all comments for this individual only.  If you want to delete only the general comment, modify the privacy profile to delete only the general comment while keeping the birth and death comments.  You may rename this profile from "Private Comment(s)" to "No General Comment" so you know what this profile does.  At the moment, the GUI cannot create nor delete privacy profiles, however if you wish to create a new privacy profile specific to delete the general comment, you can can create one by modifying the XML file.

I use the Living Individual privacy filter on my web site tree, offering living people to include the level of information of choise upon personal contact.

However, I cant make it work...

1) How can I make the public filter (for selected people) owerride the generaL Living privacy filter?

I tried: enable all filters in "generate report", select Living filter for all, select an individual that should be public, and select "public" and unselect "living" - but they still do not show up in the report.

I saw how you can exempt for instance one genomap by writing a code snippet, but shouldn't the checkbox do the trick?

2) Not sure if this has been reported: With living individuals excluded, their family photos still remains. This should not reqire selecting each family separately, but infer from the members being alive that the "family" is "living" too, and needs exclusion. Planned fix? Anna

The privacy filter does not handle GenoMaps yet.  Beta14 introduced privacy filters, and there is still some work to be done in this area too.  I am thinking of having a privacy filter to include one or multiple GenoMaps and another privacy filter to exclude one or multiple GenoMaps.

You are bringing a good point.  Do you have a suggestion?  Should the criteria for a "living family" means at least one individual alive?

If you want to remove those family pictures from the report, just include those pictures to one of the living parent (use the "Pick..." button).  The privacy will remove all pictures of living parents, and by the same token, remove the family pictures since they are the same.

  After further thought, I believe that creating a new field called "private comment" would be very useful.  This field should not appear in reports. 

Danny

P.S. How do I get back to my old login name, when I forgot my password?

Go to http://www.genopro.com/login/ and ask the server to re-send your password.  You should add yourself a username too.

   I am still interested in a Private Comment field.  This field will not appear in any report (unless specifically included).  Any chance of this field being added, particularly in the General Tab?  It is quite important for me, and I presume for others as well.

Danny

A simple solution would be having a checkbox named Private Comment.  When this checkbox is checked, then the comments are excluded from the report.  This may appear a good solution, however there are several drawbacks:

1. The user cannot type a public comment and a private comment.  With my solution in mind, the user could enter a private comment, and a public comment containing HTML tags for the report.  GenoPro would be aware of the HTML tags and would insert the text differently in the report to fully leverage the HTML code.

2. The checkbox requires modifying the templates of report generator to exclude all private comments.  The correct solution is having those private comments automatically removed by GenoPro, so the report generator is not aware of them.  This will simplify the code and eliminate the possible error of forgetting to write code to exclude a private comment.

3. This is the job of the Privacy filter to remove unwanted information.

I have taken a note in my "todo" list to review this issue... what can be done for version 2.0 and what will be done after...

  This is exactly what I am seeking.   Your solution is the correct one, in my opinion.  If this will take a long time (i.e. pushed off to after 2.0), I suggest that you place a new field meanwhile called private comment.

One suggestion would be to use a special character to mark the begining of a private comment.  For instance, you can use the tide (~) character at the begining of a private comment.  Then, modify the code in the HTML template to exclude any comment starting with the tide (~) character.  If you don'tlike the tide character, youmay pick another character such as the percent (%) or caret (^).  Rarely you will see a comment begining with those characters.

1. Public comment

2. Private comment

if I don't misunderstand, with your solution it can only be one or the other, not both for the same individual.

Perhaps we should have a filter that is XML-like ([private][/private]) as part of the comment itself. e.g.,

Or else, the best solution for now is to create a custom field, called private comment, and fill in the information there.  When you have a complete solution, the private information will need to be moved into that field.

When all is said and done, I still believe the best solution is to have a separate field, called private comment.

The solution of a Private Comment checkbox would work only for one or the other, but not both a private and public comment for the same individual.  What I had in mind was a special text control capable to split itself in two, one for the public and one for the private comment.

The Green and Red buttons would make the public and private comment show and hide.  Of course, the user interface would be a bit better with different colors and tooltips.

I really like your idea of having tags [private] [/private] and so on.  I wanted to support HTML tags, so the [html] [/html] tags could be used to indicate there is HTML code within those tags.  GenoPro could then output rich HTML content in hte reports.  This would easily solve the multi-lingual comment.

Example:

Those tags will be available from mini-toolbar with buttons to insert the [private][/private], [html][/html], and [lang=][/lang] of the selected text.  This mini-toolbar would appear instead of the green and red buttons in the screenshot above.

Of course, there will be only one textbox for the comment, however this textbox could contains a combination of comments, public and private, in many languages.  One advantage of this design is it can also be used for other fields such as names.

First, I don't think there will be many tags.  For instance, the tag [html] will indicate real HTML content is present within the comment.  This HTML content will use standard HTML tags such as <b>, <u> <a> and so on.  Maybe some shortcut HTML tags will be added such as [url=] and [img], but the core will be based on true HTML tags having angle brackets <>.

I think having the tags [private], [html] and [lang=] will be enough to handle all cases for private and public comments in all languages... the other tags will be optional.

A mini-toolbar can easily accomodate a dozen buttons.  Other functions can be available from a context menu and keyboard shortcuts.  What we are talking is quite advanced stuff.  I don't think any genealogy software currently supports something like that.

I totally agree.  GenoPro puts everyone else in the dust.  Keep on truckin'    !!!

This is a post-version 2.0.  If we keep adding new features to GenoPro, we will never release GenoPro 2.0.

Just browsing some earlier posts and came across this one. If you can't wait for GenoPro to implement private comments then there is a D.I.Y. solution that has been around since at least Beta 14b

Simply use a unique delimiter to separate your public comment from the private one. e.g. use the section mark § (hold down the ALT key and type 0167 on the numeric pad to get this character or copy and paste it).

The create yourself a customised report template (or use one you already have) and modify the 'annotate' functions WriteHtmlAnnotation & WriteHtmlAnnotationPicture in Util.vbs as follows

It will then only report on the comment text appearing before the § character. Of course only comments that actually contain private notes need to have the § character present. If all of the comment is private then simply put § as the 1st character.

If you don't want to use § change the above code to use whatever unique delimiter you choose.

  Given the great suggestion for the escape character, I was wondering if this code can be placed as part of the standard report which will be shipped in subsequent versions. 

  This request also brings up another issue:  Because Ron's excellent report is a moving target, I have not as yet tried to translate it into Hebrew.  I would like to see a finalized version, along with the language additions Dan has been promising, before proceeding on my own. 

  Be that as it may, perhaps the standard report can have sections which can either call the regular section or exit to an external function, and then return.  for example: