By crash893 - Thursday, August 11, 2005
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Names Removed
Due to lack of participation this tread is shutdown
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By V.L.o - Thursday, August 18, 2005
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I intend to post my family list here to, but with this HAVE liste, shouldn't there be another LOOKING FOR master list.... :?:
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By IainTait - Thursday, August 18, 2005
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A nice idea, but I see by the last posting that the quantities of names involved could pose a problem somewhere.
My tree also contains hundreds of surnames names and over 4000 entries so far!
And it appears from the forum that some trees contain tens of thousands of names.
Perhaps a link to each "names list" would take up less space on the forum?
The mention of countries of origin is usefull as how many times have I been looking for family in Scotland only to find 99% of the names are from the USA!
Here is a link to my tree names list.
http://www.beath.net/tree/index.html
This was done using the old report generator and by copying and pasting all the places of birth, marriage and death!
That is why I am so keenly waiting for the new generator to be more complete.
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By V.L.o - Thursday, August 18, 2005
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It goes just down to:
ST.CLAIR MAU
Ask Dan if he could delete your post (and this mine), and re-post list in parts of some up to 100 last names in sequence!
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By GenoProSupport - Thursday, August 18, 2005
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GenoPro is moving away from phpBB to Instant Forum. The new support forum will have better search capability, not to mention better interfaces for integration (login, loss password, lost GoldenKey, etc).
I already purchased the forum at http://support.genopro.com/, however I am waiting for the official version 4.0. The current version 3.4 uses different database tables, so I will have to re-do the whole thing.
For those searching names, I have good news for you. In the future, there will be a forum dedicated for each last name, with cross linking between those forums.
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By appleshaw - Thursday, August 18, 2005
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It goes just down to:
ST.CLAIR MAU
Ask Dan if he could delete your post (and this mine), and re-post list in parts of some up to 100 last names in sequence!
No problem with whole list here
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By IainTait - Thursday, August 18, 2005
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This is the sort of lateral thinking that could very well come up with something really usefull, so keep thinking as all these contributions are valuable.
Each of us has his own priorities and talents, I might have some priorities (i.e. my research), but perhaps no tallent for programming.
Hunting for info on the web can be very frustrating and time consuming and so any contribution to simplify the task is welcome.
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By IainTait - Friday, August 19, 2005
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I see that people still insist on posting enormous lists of names on the forum instead of "links" to their "Names Lists". The proposed "Master List" will probably be useful, but depends on how it is set up and the quality of info supplied by the users. I personally think that "Links" to lots of "names lists" would be more usefull, and even more so if the "flags" were to be used to indicate the countries covered by any given "names list". Perhaps "lists" classed under each "country" would be even better, so giving researchers the possibility of only going to lists covering their countries of interest.  I have resisted the temptation to add my "huge" names list to the forum and have only put the link to my web names list elsewhere on this forum and in my profile (my site was off-line recently due to a hosting problem-they were on holiday!)  (Now it is on-line again)
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By GenoProSupport - Friday, August 19, 2005
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iaintait (8/19/2005)
Perhaps "lists" classed under each "country" would be even better, so giving researchers the possibility of only going to lists covering their countries of interest.  This feature is under way. The tool for Translating names from one language to another will handle the "Master List". People will be able to write more information about each name, including a brief history and location where they would like information about a specific name. Users will be able to subscribe to the names they want to be notified when a new post is available. For extra information, you are welcome to read post web search. This is a big project and it is something I care about. My brother already started working on it. iaintait (8/19/2005)
I have resisted the temptation to add my "huge" names list to the forum and have only put the link to my web names list elsewhere on this forum and in my profile (my site is off-line at the moment due to a hosting problem-they're on holiday!)  The report generator will be the best way to generate those names list. Beta 14 (coming next week) has a wealth of search keywords for visitors searching any name found in the generated report. You will be amazed how many visitors will find your report on the web by searching for family names found in your report.
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By IainTait - Saturday, August 20, 2005
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My web site home page has a names list without links to show all names mentioned so that browsers can see at a glance if the name they are looking for is contained in my tree and save wasting time searching the tree. My web tree obviously has a names list generated by GenoPro and the links I have supplied in this forum point to this version. I will start reworking my web tree once the new generator arrives and I am thinking of adding flags to indicate the countries involved, in this case mostly Scotland, Australia, New Zealand and England , but also including Wales, Ireland, France, USA, Puerto Rica, Sweden and some others.
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By GenoProSupport - Saturday, August 20, 2005
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iaintait (8/20/2005) ... I am thinking of adding flags to indicate the countries involved, in this case mostly Scotland, Australia, New Zealand and England , but also including Wales, Ireland, France, USA, Puerto Rica, Sweden and some others. Geeee, I need to add the list of countries so they can be accessed by country code such as "IE", "FR", "US", "PR", "SE" and others.
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By V.L.o - Sunday, August 21, 2005
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You might use this list of country codes. It should be the best ...
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By GenoProSupport - Sunday, August 21, 2005
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Thanks for the link. The country list is not a "normal enumeration" like the PlaceCategory or the IndustrySector . When importing from a Gedcom file (or other data source), it is possible a country name was misspelled, so GenoPro must have a provision for misspelled country names. On the other hand, GenoPro must offer a mechanism to get the two-letter country code via place.country.id for scripting.
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By GenoProSupport - Sunday, August 21, 2005
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crash893 (8/21/2005) I dissagree
i made this tread to make it easy for people to add names that they have found or that they currently maintian.
think of it as a charity with people premetively donating there work for others to look threw
if you make it harder by uping the reqired info then that charity will dry up and youll be left with what you had before ....... witch is basicly 100000 "im looking for" threads and no acutall leads.I am not sure what you are talking about. I guess it is not about the "country list" (which is off topic from the Master List). if you make it harder by uping the reqired info Simplicity is always my goal. I want people to be able to upload all their names to GenoPro.com with a single mouse click. On the other hand, quality is also my goal. I want people to be able to add (attach) additional information to a specific name, and have a mechanism to be contacted.
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By GenoProSupport - Monday, August 22, 2005
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I was not clear about the details of the workings of this project. I fully understand what you meant: submitting a Master List without the hassle of having to enter extra information. Simplicity is my goal too. On the other hand, I want people to have access a forum dedicated for each family name, so they can communicate and post more information. This will be a cool project and I am hoping very useful to the genealogy community. This project is being developed by my brother, so it will not delay GenoPro 2.0.
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By IainTait - Monday, August 22, 2005
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I at last understand where you are going with this topic! I didn't realise you intended creating individual name forums. Though there are already Surname forums on Geneology.com and else where, having new ones on GenoPro could perhaps breathe new life into the research effort if the names were perhaps devided into national or continental categories. My family is mostly from Scotland, but then went to such places as Australia and New Zealand, though there are branches and ancestors in several other countries. Most of my more important research must be in Scotland between the 1600's and 1800's particularly in Fifeshire and Lanarkshire. A lot of the information on later gererations depends on the generous contributions of various distant cousins around the world, some of whom have been most helpful, others, perhaps, are too busy to help (or just not interested in the family tree!)
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By GenoProSupport - Monday, August 22, 2005
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iaintait (8/22/2005) Though there are already Surname forums on Geneology.com and else where, having new ones on GenoPro could perhaps breathe new life into the research effort if the names were perhaps devided into national or continental categories.The "Surname forums" from Genealogy.com limited to a single topic per surname. Messages are posted one after the other and cannot be easily organized. For instance, take a look at http://genforum.genealogy.com/morin/all.html, you will see it is difficult to maintain a conversation about a specific ancestor. My idea is to have something better where users capable submit names directly to GenoPro.com from their family tree. Similairly, users could fetch surname information from the names already found in their family tree. I don't know all the details about the inner workings, but I have a pretty clear idea of what I want. I think people will use this feature. There is no such thing on the web at the moment.
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By IainTait - Monday, August 22, 2005
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I like the idea, though I think it will take some work to get it working, for which I wish you luck. I have also found Geneology. com difficult to follow especially for the Tait forum which mixes Taits with Tates which are mostly American! For the Beaths it is simpler as there are unfortunately very few postings!
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By GenoProSupport - Monday, August 22, 2005
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Hitting the "upload" button would submit to GenoPro the names from the .gno file. You keep your .gno file. GenoPro would then use this list of names, and create a dedicated forum for each name. You would access the forum with a URL something like: http://FamilyNameSearch.GenoPro.Com/<FamilyName>/ . This forum would be integrated with the support forum /w same username login & password.
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By Yehudad - Monday, August 22, 2005
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So, basically these forums would be for GenoPro members only? If so, I think it would be a mistake, since from what I see there are not much members who share the same surnames. If we want to locate others who research the surname it has to be open to everyone.
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By Yehudad - Monday, August 22, 2005
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crash893 (8/23/2005) i agree with you that there might not be enogh people to attain " fusion" but i would rather that than a bunch of idots spam up the placeMy suggestion: The forums will be open to view. But if someone wants to write, he will have to register as a GenoPro user.
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By GenoProSupport - Tuesday, August 23, 2005
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There will be another section for the "Master Index" different from http://FamilyNameSearch.GenoPro.Com/<FamilyName>/. GenoPro can reuse the same database of names and create many tools, such as a dedicated forum for each surname. Everyone will be able to view & browse those web resources. To add information to the master index, users would have to register, or at least subscribe to the newsletter. Anonymous posts leads to spam and/or database vandalism.
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By GenoProSupport - Wednesday, August 24, 2005
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crash893 (8/24/2005) now they both have 4 ansestors in common
will this feature let them see the other tree to see what else they have in common
or does it simply open up a thread on the forums that they can look in and see that some one else has a shared ancestoryBoth
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By imcon - Monday, September 19, 2005
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By rdn - Tuesday, September 20, 2005
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Sorry to be a party-pooper, but I don't think this is the wisest way to research for names. My suggestion is that a small database be created, with the surnames appearing there. A single upload will include all the names on your list, as well as research existing names. A return from such an upload, or a search with these names, will bring up someone's alias (instead of direct email) who also has these surnames. In this manner, we can find out if someone else has similar names, and can quickly contact them. Just my 2 cents... Danny
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By IainTait - Thursday, October 6, 2005
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How does one find out if the names in common are actually related?
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By GenoProSupport - Wednesday, November 2, 2005
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There is something wierd on this forum. I tried to post a message and was unable to. Also, I tried to delete one of your "empty" message and it deleted another message. I think there is a bug in the database regarding this thread.
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By crash893 - Saturday, November 12, 2005
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I would like this thread deleted please
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By GenoProSupport - Saturday, November 12, 2005
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This thread has been more useful than you think. One of the first task my brother Jean-Claude will do is a database repository to store all the names, so they can be updated individually, and people can receive email notifications on specific surnames.
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By IainTait - Sunday, November 13, 2005
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I used to use "Legacy" (before discovering GenoPro) which has a Search button on the Tool Bar with dropdown menu containing "Search Internet for Current Person" amongst other possibilities, which opens a small window containing various choices such as "FamilySearch"(LDS), "Altavista", "Inteliseek", "RootsWeb" , "Geneology.com" etc. and these can be customised at will by the user. Their system would be ideal for GenoPro. I still have Legacy on my computer but only use it as a backup for making gedcoms incase I have a problem with GenoPro and also for doing Internet searches.
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By crash893 - Sunday, November 13, 2005
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I think a database would be ideal
there would have to be a ballance between free and full of crap witch seems to be the problem with most of the internet
an alternative to that ( but requires a larger population of users) is the ablity to self police like the wiki method or a vote / populatrity method or in otherwords basicly you validate a family tree by how much it matchs another family tree
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By jcmorin - Sunday, November 13, 2005
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A global world database is something GenoPro will offer in the future. Unlike other name repository, this database will be based on quality with a safe, yet simple, mechanism to make updates. There will be a logging mechanism to keep track of the changes made by each contributor in case of data vandalism or abuse. We are still drafting the implementation details. As soon as we have a working prototype, GenoPro will have a dedicated forum for suggestions & comments about this database.
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By crash893 - Monday, November 14, 2005
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Do you think there will be enogh trees to make critical mass ?
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By V.L.o - Tuesday, November 15, 2005
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I hope so!
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By crash893 - Wednesday, December 21, 2005
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Not a lot of activity on this
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By V.L.o - Thursday, December 22, 2005
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I see you're "attached" to this thread, I know I would be too if I wasn't aware that I live in a part of world where computer literacy and awareness of it's capabilities is not quite high enough, so I feel like "stray object" in this informatic space... To keep this thread alive I'll try to find some "stray" family members of my own... I still cannot connect following families FUCHS (or) FUX KRIŠTOF (I don't know previous alliterations) CAPELLE VIDMAR ŽUPANČIĆ (which I have somewhat connected although not with full data) with RICHTENBERG, (comte(s) de) - (central Europe, (maybe) Wien, (definitely) Paris around 1720-1730-ies) ZDENEZEY (or ZDENCZEY) (around 1788, CE) maybe wed MACHERS LENZENHEIM, or LEZENHEIM (or something similar) 16-17-18 century (Breslau (today Wrocław) Prussland (Prussia) now Poland)
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By V.L.o - Thursday, December 22, 2005
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...Also I would like to find descendants and (maybe illegitimate) son (or possibly a daughter) of: Елецкий В.С. (RU) (english transliteration Yeletsky or Eletsky) (Family name (his uncle) mentioned in opera "The Queen of spades" (Пиковая дама) by P.I. Tchaikovsky - born after revolution in Russia but before 1930-ies Father lived 'till 1990-ies but his son was brought up somewhere around Paris - France. Parents met in Orient Express or maybe some other direct line from Constantinople to Paris...
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By crash893 - Thursday, December 22, 2005
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where do you live
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By V.L.o - Thursday, December 22, 2005
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Somewhere around here... as stated in my profile...
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By crash893 - Thursday, January 5, 2006
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Holy crap
im not even going to list them all but booooooooy howdy did i find a nice source for gedcom files
http://www.genealogyforum.com/gedcom/
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