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I have updated the custom skin attached to the 1st post of this thread. The script now (hopefully) deals with half blood relationships, i.e. just one shared [[great..]grand]parent, rather than a couple, and also 'in-laws', i.e. those related by marriage, or in these more enlightened times any other union (i.e. 'in-common-law').Also added gender IDs for each individual as paramters to the phrases.
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Ron, sorry but I'm a relative newcomer to Genopro power features. I copied the files to the folder C:\Program Files\GenoPro\Skins, but the choice of "Kinship calculator" dosn't appear in the drop down "Skin Name" combo. Have I copied it to the right place, and how do I get it to appear in the drop-down combo?
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....fixed it, sorry!
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Sorry to have such awkward ancestors who do not fit into your kinship calculator. It does give:-
"Peter John Beaven is the 3x great grandson of Betty d_Joshua Beaven.
Thomas Mitchell & Betty d_Joshua Beaven are 3x great grandparents of Peter John Beaven."
However Betty had another son, which we know about from a bastardy order. I have entered this in GenoPro as the result (hopefully for their sakes) of a Love Affair. GenoPro recognises George as a son of Betty but the kinship calculator says:-
"Betty d_Joshua Beaven & George Beaven are not blood relatives and not related by marriage or other union."
So obviously it will not consider that George is any sort of my relatives
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I'm unclear as to what is happening here. I tested the simple case
and the calculator correctly returns: s2 is a half-brother of s1. Common ancestor f1 is the mother of s2 and s1. and if I select f1 and either s1 or s2 then a a mother-son relationship is correctly shown. Have you checked that the pedigree link from Betty to George is a biological link? What does the calculator indicate for the relationship between George and his half brother? I will be happy to take a look if you send be a sample .gno via GenoPro's built in Send facility on the File menu.
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Hope you got the gno file. The difference is that in Family Properties the relation between Betty and George's father is 'Love Affair'.
The Family tag in Properties shows Betty as George's mother
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I am not sure how it happened but a problem exists in the gno file where George's family shows expected mother but two fathers as:-
[2] James Parsons, Thomas Mitchell
Will try and delete and reconstruct things (tomorrow) to see what happens
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Ron, may be there is one point, which needs to be clarified. If somebody is adopted, he/she is regarded as a member of the family and thus a cousin of somebody, although not blood related. This is true for some countries, for others may be not.
So if I select two persons in order to find out the kinship relation and one person is adopted or the son/daughter of an adopted person, the result is not related. Can we do something about this?
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I can look into this although superficially it appears to be quite complicated. For example, IsAdopted in GenoPro can be either adopted or fostered and it is not that straightforward identifying adoptive parents. I also need to consider at some stage 'step' relationships e.g. step brother or sister. Adopted and step children are still not blood relatives, hence the word 'blood' appearing in the current message when no relationship found. Some further items I have on my 'to do' list' : - Produce an HTML page showing the pedigree links from the common ancestor to the two selected individuals.
- In some countries, e.g. Germany I believe, cousins but of different generations are not described as 'n'th cousin 'x' times removed , but as [[[great]...]grand]son/daughter of 'n'th cousin
- For 'half' blood relationships, the 'half-' suffix should immediately precede the type of relationship, i.e. cousin/nephew/niece and not any great or grand adjective, e.g. great great grand half-nephew, not half-great great grand nephew.
- Appleshaw's problem was caused by having two biological fathers for and individual. This was a mistake but GenoPro does not flag this as an error when the relationship is created. Perhaps it should do and this is also one for the proposed 'Problem Spotter' enhancement to GenoPro. Maybe this report should flag such situations. The only time this would be valid is when the user wishes to express uncertainty as to the father. There have been dscussions elsewhere in this forum regarding a 'possible child' pedigree relationship but this has yet to be implemented.
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Edited: Friday, October 31, 2008 by
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I also considered that GenoPro should have flagged my mistake - two biological fathers. However I realised that it is possible to have two fathers where a second husband/mate adopts a son from a previous relationship. So it was just my mistake
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