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I have four situations where the "Problem Spotter" indicator "The family has a single parent" appears indicating a possible problem. In all four cases the indicator should not appear and help is requested to cause the indicator to disappear.
Situation 1: Involves a man and women having one child. In this case the indicator "The family has a single parent" is not applicable since the couple were never married and the actual relationship is "unknown". "The family has a single parent" indicator should not appear indicating a possible problem. Situation 2: Involves a women having two children by her first husband. She divorced her first husband and married a second husband that subsequently ended in divorce. So, in this case the "The family has a single parent" indicator is correct but should not appear as a potential problem. Situation 3 & 4: Involves a women having only two children by her first husband. After her first husband died she married a second husband who died and then she married a third husband who subsequently died. The "The family has a single parent" indicator appears twice, representing the described situation. So, in this case the "The family has a single parent" indicator should never have appeared as a potential problem. Any help you may be able to provide keeping these indicator from appearing will be greatly appreciated.
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The indications you list point to a common problem that the Problem Spotter has correctly picked up. If you examine closely the families concerned, I believe you will find in each case that one of the parents is not connected properly to the Family Line. If you hover your cursor over each parent in turn, the pop-up should show the total number of children for that parent (from all unions), and hovering over the Family Line will show the parents and the number of children of that family. Any discrepancy indicates a mis-connection. For an individual with multiple partners, that person must be connected to each of the Family Lines. Whether the partners were married or not is irrelevant.
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Thank you for your comments. I recently started correcting around 70 errors using the Problem Spotter and the cursor hover technique you suggested. Consequently all of my problems have been solved except for the four described in my request for help. Since the time of the request most of my problems have been solved as follows: Situation 1 - The mother has two children and is part of the family line. She divorced the biological father, then married and divorced a second time. 1. The Problem Spotter comment “The family has a single parent” was not true since both the mother and father appeared on the family tree as a divorced couple. 2. In this case, the Problem Spotter comment “The family has a single parent” was removed by detaching all marriage indicators from the family line between the mother’s first and second husband sand then re-attaching the mother’s marriage entries to the family line in chronological order. Situation 2 - The mother is part of the family line andmarried to the father of their one child. The father is divorced from an original marriage that produced two children. 1. The comment “mothers name is a single parent (one child)” is attached to the family line between the mother and father. 2. The above comment was not true since the mother and father are married to each other. 3. The Problem Spotter comment “The family has a single parent” was not true since both the mother and father appeared on the family tree as a married couple. 4. In this case, the Problem Spotter comment “The family has a single parent” was removed by re-entering the father’s marriage data first and then entering his second marriage to the family line between mother and father of the father’s third child. Situation 3 - The mother is part of the family line was married to the father of their two children. The father was killed in an automobile accident and the mother re-married twice for a total of three husbands that she out lived. 1. The Problem Spotter comment “The family has a single parent” was correct at that point. 2. The comment “The third husbands name is a single parent”, attached to the family line was incorrect in that he was not single. 3. In this case, the Problem Spotter comment “The family has a single parent” was removed by re-entering the mother’s marriage data first and then entering the second and third marriage data in sequential order. Situation 4 - The mother is part of the family line and never married the father of their one child. 1. Removed all three members from the family tree. 2. Created new entries for the three members and attached to the family tree. 3. Deleted all three of the original member entries. 4. The comment “Elijah Merriman is a single parent (one child”) is now attached to the replacement family line between Elijah Merriman and Mary N. McCoy. 5. The comment “Mary N.McCoy is a single parent (one child”) is also now attached to the family line between Elijah Merriman and Mary N. McCoy. 6. Problem Spotter comment “The family has a single parent” remains on the problem list. 7. Conclusion: The problem may be with Problem Spotter.
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Wow. Very detailed post. Feel free to send me your family tree and I will take a look at the "problems". Please bear in mind the Problem Spotter was designed to give warnings to common problems, as there are problems detected which are not problems. GenoProX will have the option to ignore a problem if determined to not be a problem for an individual and/or family.
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I wonder how you have created your families? e.g. I tried to reproduce your 'Situation 1' and the problem spotter found no issue. My test .gno is attached.
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Mr. Gnome,
Thanks for your comment and diagram. My diagrams are displayed very nearly the same as yours. However, in the interest of keeping the various family levels at the same relative position on the diagram, I superimpose the lines between multiple spouses and missed the bunch of errors problem checker picked up. The problem checker is very much appreciated. At any rate, I was able to remove all of the checker comments from the possible problem list except for one. See below. Problem Spotter comment “The family has a single parent” identifies a situation that is true but keeps the comment on the possible problem list anyway.
The situation involves a couple in the 1800's that had a child but never married. While the situation was a bit rare then, my impression is that unmarried couples with children are quite common in today's world. |
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I am glad that you managed to correct the majority of errors that the Problem Solver picked up.
As to your persistent error, I have managed to reproduce a situation which, although appearing to be correct as regards the diagram, shows the error you indicate:
In fact the Father has been connected to the Family Line as 'Link as Child' rather than 'Link as Parent'. Is this what has happened in your case?
As I commented previously, whether the couple were married or not is irrelevant.
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I thought the Problem Spotter would also report if a child is above the family line and if a parent is below the family line.
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You have created the problem I am facing.
Thanks for doing the research. Perhaps the problem spotter can be modified to accommodate situations like this.
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If you arrange people on the display according to date then it is fairly common to have children born before a marriage and so will plot above the family line. However as the Problem Spotter is a warning, this is not a problem.
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