Me too.  Writing a routine to AutoArrange is not easy.  In fact, I spent more time writing & debugging the AutoArrange than the time I spent on the report generator.  Version 2.1 will have a brand new AutoArrange which will be far more powerful than the current AutoArrange.

Luca has adopted the daughter of his brother...

This mess up all my work... so at the momenti I exclude this from the family tree due to the fact... I'm not so smart... and I like auto update... LOL

_{Ciao, Luka}

Is

I just added a link to situation within one of my family trees...

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"εν οιδα οτι ουδεν οιδα" (Σωκρατησ)  - "The only thing that I know is that I don't know anything" (Socrates)

When you edit your post, there is the icon to insert an image in your message.

For Luka01:

Define "Lucy Santos" as internal hyperlink and link each exemplar (as child) to another mother.

(1st copy - to Shina, and 2nd copy  - to Eva).

For V.L.O.:

Define "V" as internal hyperlink and link each exemplar (as child) to another mother.

(1st copy - to L, and 2nd copy  - to VNL).

Alfi

iaintait (9/7/2005)

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Though I might not be smart, I never use auto arrange as I prefer to arrange families manually!

Well...

If you have a familytree with 7500 names, it will be difficult to arrange the family manually. And yes, I can divide to 70 difference tree, but most of the people (families) just want to see the relation between each other.

Anyway, I can wait until Dan finish the real auto arrange.

rgds,

steve

All close families are grouped in the genogram in such a way that I can easily move a whole group to make space for an additional branch sent as a Gedcom file etc.

Autoarrange might be appreciated by many though I don't use it, it's just a question of choice.

As for Autoarranging such big family trees... I just wonder how many routines should be involved in... It si simple when you have a straight ancestor-descendent line without families on the side. But what aboout going "wider" having cousins, their families, ancestors and descendents involved, people without real blood relationship... Just one or two of theese and situation gets more and more complicated.

Real example:

Cousin of mine (son of my aunt (fathers sister)) married a woman, which is grand niece of my grand grand fathers(of my mother) brothers wife ... ...let me see someone try to put it down without hyperlink!!! Or put this in auto arrange!

It is virtually imposible to get a straight result, especially if every person mentioned had at least two brothers or sisters with their families...

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"εν οιδα οτι ουδεν οιδα" (Σωκρατησ)  - "The only thing that I know is that I don't know anything" (Socrates)

This is my conclusion too.  The new AutoArrange will use hyperlinks and optionally create additional GenoMaps in those complex situations.

This is exactly the sort of problem I have with my tree as there are lots of marriages between cousins even from different generations.

There is even one connected family which is connected twice to my ancestors with three generations between these connections (all by marriage !)

I have managed to arrange the complete tree without having crossed lines by spreading it out and moving the families about untill the lines didn't cross, but it wasn't easy !

It is called a GenoMap .  The GenoMap allows the tree to stretch beyond the x,y dimension, like a book having multiple pages.

There is the software "3D Family Tree", however I think 3D stuff is difficult to handle (mouse selection, copy & paste, etc).  You can see a sample at http://www.3dfamilytree.com/graphics/screen3.jpg

How must I prepare the gno file?

Thanks.

i still think that manual arrangment on your genopro tree is the best/easiest way

however if you want to give it a try here is what i did

1) make your tree (duh)

2) export it to a .ged file

3) move that file over to a linux based machine

4) install "gramps" its a geno program much like genopro but with out a nice built in tree feature

5) import your ged file ( might take a while )

6) go to reports and select graphical reports

7) this will produce a *.dot file

8) you can either install graphviz for linux or windows i find it slightly easier in windows ( im still a noob in linux)

9) select your *dot file then select the out put dir and then the file type

10 hit "do lay out" and come back in a few min ( for larger trees) the trees you see there took about 1 min 30 seconds but some supper large trees i have seen take up to 10 min ( huge huge huge )

11) your on your own i did this more as a proof of concept so anything after this you better start reading help files

... I have work a lot of years with Unix.... but now I've this "System" is no installed.

so.... We must search another solution.....

Thanks

Thanks.

Yesterday I worked on convert the .ged to .dot and all is relative Ok.

But I've a little problems with what .dot function to use.

Do you can send a little .ged and the .pot to me?  its ok a sample with 3 generations.

I think that I can work on it this weekend and a early version will be on monday.

I try to make a box rounding the pairs, and that works fine.

My problem is now, that I must link father and mother separately and I want only one link.

Thanks.

I can't see any family and that was my problem......