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Author Suggestions to improve the AutoArrange and solutions to leverage the AutoArrange.
Posted Friday, January 11, 2008 - Post #20387
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At the moment auto arrange will not perform this task unless the Genomap has a small Family group.  Split your tree into separate Genomaps by using hyperlinks and the autoarrange works well. You will also benefit by better sized print outs. Downside is that not all members will be on one printout, but then books are not all written on one page.Smile

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Posted Thursday, January 10, 2008 - Post #20365
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I just logged on to request a tweak to auto arrange and stumbled on this post. I might as well add my request here...

Whenever I make a change to the tree, I spend a lot of time arranging it so all people of the same generation are aligned horizontally as I (and all my family) find this layout MUCH easier to understand. Could you add an auto arrange option to automatically do this?

In case it's not clear, by 'same generation' I mean, for example, I am on the same horizontal alignment as my brothers and sisters and we are all aligned with my aunt and uncles children and so on. If this isn't clear, let me know and I'll be happy to explain further or provide an example.

Posted Friday, May 25, 2007 - Post #17872
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The generational AutoArrange would work well in specific cases (although it sometimes creates very wide trees). The two cases that come to mind are:

1) The tree moves strictly up from a person or couple; i.e. there are no siblings on the tree.
2) The tree moves strictly down from a person or couple.

There are, of course, exceptions, for example, if two brothers marry two sisters, and all four were descended from the starting person; or someone married his niece, and the starting person descended from that union.

I have a tree (approx. 500 individuals) for which generational arrange works, but AutoArrage seems to favor trees with aspect ratios near(er) unity (or it did during version 1.x), so I ended up unstacking the tree and arranging it by hand. I have now switched to using GenoMaps and print the tree on 36x44in paper instead of on 8.5xlong banner paper.

I would like to see generational AutoArrage on trees where it is possible.
Posted Friday, May 18, 2007 - Post #17782
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But in the table layout I don't see anything about entry of new individuals, is that right ?

Press Enter to get the individual's properties.

Posted Friday, May 18, 2007 - Post #17778
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But in the table layout I don't see anything about entry of new individuals, is that right ?
Posted Thursday, May 17, 2007 - Post #17772
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If you have a big family tree, I suggest so you split your information into multiple GenoMaps while linking them together with hyperlinks.

Is there a way to mask out certain partss of the tree, for adding individuals ? Or a text based entry?

You are welcome to use the Table Layout for your entries.  Some individuals have never used the graphical part because it is too messy.  For instance, after importing a Gedcom file having 50,000 individuals, it is impossible to have a clean graphical pedigree tree.  The Table Layout is very powerful to perform text-based entry.  As you grow your family tree, you can start moving branches of your family trees into different GenoMaps.

The video http://www.genopro.com/tutorials/videos/Importing-a-gedcom-file/ shows how to split your family tree into two GenoMaps.

Edited: Thursday, May 17, 2007 by GenoProSupport

Posted Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - Post #17770
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I tried it out and would like to get this program for my mother, since the website reports are beautifull. I exported gedcom from familiy origins and imported it to genopro. That works fine, but to include the pictures in de gedcom, you need to contact Family Origins (discontinued) and they do it for you. Clearly a procedure you do not want to repeat.
This means my mother has to switch everything over to genopro and continu adding individuals in genopro. From the looks of it, that is a lot more difficult than in family origins. In most programs you see 1 individual on the left and 3 generations higher to the right. You can choose family view if you want to change something to the family. In genopro you get a big chart with hundreds of individuals printed over each other. I doubt if you can ever arrange that without overlap (her database has 6000 individuals) Is there a way to mask out certain partss of the tree, for adding individuals ? Or a text based entry ?
Or editing in the web base report style. You get extra buttons on the web site of the individual:add spouse, add child, etc. This way yo navigate to the person you want to edit like in the current website report, and locally edit in details. This way you dont even need to regenerate the report. Al the thousands of individuals on 1 screen, does not give much information.
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Edited: Thursday, May 17, 2007 by 288144
Posted Friday, April 27, 2007 - Post #17553
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Alfi (4/26/2007)
About this very one, I've suggested - as a beginning of the solution - to try and increase the "2 spouses" restriction to 3 ones.

I agree, however this is almost impossible. You should see the code underneath.  It would be like asking to extend the existing telephone system from a one-to-one communication to a many-to-many conference call.  The amount of work is far more than re-compiling the code by increasing the value from "2 spouses" to "3 spouses".

Posted Thursday, April 26, 2007 - Post #17543
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Since I have more than 7000 individuals, I get an ugly diagram everytime someone has more than 2 wives/husbands. Luckily there are not so many of them Smile
Is this problem known by you ?

This will be changed for version 2.1.

I've also written you about this problem in the past; maybe you'll remove here (under suggestions) all my unsolved problems ...

About this very one, I've suggested - as a beginning of the solution - to try and increase the "2 spouses" restriction to 3 ones.


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Posted Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - Post #17387
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C Good (2/25/2007)
I'd like to suggest a sort of "clean up" form of auto arrange that doesn't calculate any major changes in layout, just tidies up the lines, and spaces things out a bit. almost like snapping everything to the grid.

It sounds like something I wrote somewhere on the forum...

What I was looking for is a way to :

a) predefine lenght/height of family line... to be arranged/fitted to grid... (I.e. default relationship partner distance 10 horizontal units...).

b) sometimes when moving family members/family line  they get detached... it's nicely depicted with red dots... would it be possible that in such occasions line stretches and connects two points?! (i.e. it occurs mostly when rearranging multiple marriages...)




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Edited: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 by V.L.o



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