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Author being able to see in a table all important events
Posted Sunday, November 19, 2006 - Post #14561
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What about being able to see in a table all important events in a family, by date; for example
  • 11.04.1955: Charle's birth
  • 08.09.1960: Elisabeth's marriage
  • 01.01.1961: Sandy and Raoul's separation
  • etc...

and being able to insert in this table any other important event, even if not defined by genographic elements or other tables or fields, such as:

- 3.11.1979: Marcs graduation

- 5.12.1980: Thomas' first's steps

etc...

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Posted Sunday, March 11, 2007 - Post #16752
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Yes I forgot the timeline images. I have now added them to the zip file attached to my earlier post. Here is a link timeline_2.0.0.3b.zip.

I agree about the problem with large Genomap. The scale could be extended (e.g. days instead of months or years) to spread events along the timeline. This is where 'hot zones' would be useful. Another approach is to remove end dates so that the events are all point events with no duration, thus allowing more events to be fitted in the same space.


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Posted Sunday, March 11, 2007 - Post #16763
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Fantastic work Ron!

In my first review it looks superb. Is there a way to reduce the font of the captions, for the longer names to fit? Specially the marriages get the names truncated... ...Otherwise, simply fantastic.

Posted Sunday, March 11, 2007 - Post #16766
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Ron, if it gets crowded on the timeline, how about trying to use the vertical style. However I am not quite sure how the label text will be displayed, but we have more space for more tracks.
Posted Sunday, March 11, 2007 - Post #16754
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Ron (3/11/2007)
Yes I forgot the timeline images. I have now added them to the zip file attached to my earlier post. Here is a link timeline_2.0.0.3b.zip.

I hadn't noticed this latest innovation before, so tried it with my test tree but got this error.

[5.37] Processing template 'popup.htm'...

[5.39] Processing template 'sources.htm'...

[5.40] Processing template 'gmap_place.htm'...

Error in Config.xml at line 139: Unable to open template file 'gmap_place.htm'

Posted Sunday, March 11, 2007 - Post #16755
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IainTait (3/11/2007)
[5.40] Processing template 'gmap_place.htm'...
Error in Config.xml at line 139: Unable to open template file 'gmap_place.htm'

Then your customized skin is somehow corrupted. The gmap_place.htm template is part of the standard skin by default and therefore should not be missing. I suggest you create a new Customized skin for the English Narrative Report from GenoPro. Then unzip the timeline zip file into it. Some files in the skin will be replaced and some new files will  be added but NO files will be deleted!


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Posted Monday, March 12, 2007 - Post #16772
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Ron (3/11/2007)
Then your customized skin is somehow corrupted. The gmap_place.htm

I did what you said and of course it worked, except that I found a lot of the people in my test tree were missing from the timeline such as most of my grandfather's syblings and uncles and aunts, also my parents though my grand neice 2004 is shown but none of my uncles or aunts either ? Sad

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Posted Monday, March 12, 2007 - Post #16781
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IainTait (3/12/2007)
I did what you said and of course it worked, except that I found a lot of the people in my test tree were missing from the timeline

Do all of the missing individuals have at least one of  date of birth, baptism, death or disposition? If not then they will not appear on the timeline as they cannot be allocated a position on it. If they do have any of these dates then perhaps you could send a sample .gno file via a private message.


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Posted Monday, March 12, 2007 - Post #16784
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Ron (3/12/2007)
Do all of the missing individuals have at least one of  date of birth, baptism, death or disposition? .

Yes, all these people have birth years and many have complete birth dates and some have death dates as well. I was especially surprised my parents weren't shown as I have full details for them.

One chap born in 1900 was shown but my father born the same year was not.

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Posted Monday, March 12, 2007 - Post #16786
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Iain, try to create a timeline with a smaller number of people, lets say may 20 to 50 and you will see them. In case of larger trees people will not show up because of space available.
Please note that this was a first try by Ron and he will find a solution.

In order to make space for important dates, marriage dates should be limited to either civil or religious dates, whatever comes first.


Edited: Monday, March 12, 2007 by maru-san
Posted Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - Post #16801
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maru-san (3/12/2007)
Iain, try to create a timeline with a smaller number of people, lets say may 20 to 50 and you will see them. In case of larger trees people will not show up because of space available.
Please note that this was a first try by Ron and he will find a solution.

My test tree is not huge containing only 273 people including the living members and there are large spaces in the time line where there should be people but no one is shown.

My parents were born 11 years appart and there are only a few people born between them but none show up.

No later generations at all except for one grand neice. My tree is already separated into many genomaps, although some of the more distant ones are quite large.

This idea of Ron's is very interesting but not very usefull if it only works on 20 or 30 people as most trees are bigger than this.

To be honest I am already over the moon about Ron's efforts with the report generator and XML tool, so this time line is not urgent for me, but would be nice when it is sorted out. Obviously this is only the first try and I can wait untill the genious sorts it out. (How does he find the time?)

Posted Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - Post #16796
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I'll try and answer the queries.

Firstly vertical style is not properly available at present. I've tried it and the events flash up on the timeline and then immediately disappear. It looks problematic anyway as the event titles are horizontal and get truncated at the right hand edge where the condensed band starts.

It does not seem possible at present to extend the length of the event titles. An issue has recently been raised on this point on the web site (http://simile.mit.edu) but no response as yet.

As regards Iain's problem of events not appearing, they should be visible when the frame is maximised by clicking the blue icon if there are not too many events at one point in time. How many individuals are there on the genomap in your test file Iain?

I will look to produce a version separating birth & death, marriage and divorce into discrete events with no duration. This will permit a greater density. But if anyone can come up with an algolrithm to automatically generate hot zone information from the event data to spread crowded areas of the timeline then I'd be happy to implement it.

But at present I am also revisiting some work I did months ago using WinGraphviz and the 'dot' language first mentioned by crash893 back June 2005 http://support.genopro.com/FindPost5997.aspx). I have a working skin to generate SVG timeline graphs that can be manipulated (pan/zoom) using the existing SVG Genomap code. These can be generated as PNG images as well. Here is the Weaseley genomap from Harry Potter (SVG dumped to PNG so not to clear!). The main issue at present is that WinGraphviz doesn't use the latest version of Graphviz and sometimes the connecting lines do not appear.




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Posted Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - Post #16803
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Ron (3/13/2007)
I'll try and answer the queries.

As regards Iain's problem of events not appearing, they should be visible when the frame is maximised by clicking the blue icon if there are not too many events at one point in time. How many individuals are there on the genomap in your test file Iain?

My test tree has 273 people in it. I opened the page as you suggested and noticed that there were two light blue bands, one near the top with enough space above it for one line of text and the other is at the bottom with one line of text and there is nothing between these two sections even though there is plenty of empty space.


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Forum Post Table of Important Events By Serge ( Sunday, November 19, 2006 )
Forum Post for marriages display in TLV, I want to submit the following idea:... By Serge ( Wednesday, April 25, 2007 )
Forum Post For merging you can use [url=http://winmerge.org/]WinMerge[/url]. Just... By fbukolyi ( Wednesday, March 28, 2007 )
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Forum Post Hi Ron, I tried your new zip but got an error on the page and nothing... By IainTait ( Monday, March 26, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]IainTait (3/26/2007)[/b][hr]I tried your new zip but got an... By genome ( Monday, March 26, 2007 )
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Forum Post [quote][b]Ron (3/27/2007)[/b][hr][quote][b]IainTait... By IainTait ( Tuesday, March 27, 2007 )
Forum Post Ah Ha! These errors suggest that the timeline.htm page has not been... By genome ( Tuesday, March 27, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]Ron (3/27/2007)[/b][hr]Ah Ha! These errors suggest that the... By IainTait ( Tuesday, March 27, 2007 )
Forum Post Well I am puzzled. Maybe your browser is blocking access to the site.... By genome ( Tuesday, March 27, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]Ron (3/27/2007)[/b][hr]Well I am puzzled. Maybe your browser... By IainTait ( Tuesday, March 27, 2007 )
Forum Post I have finally got the vertial scroll bars to work and improve the... By genome ( Tuesday, March 27, 2007 )
Forum Post Ron, A life line exists for completed lives and continuing lives A... By Poolzone ( Wednesday, March 28, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]poolzone (3/28/2007)[/b][hr]A life line does not exist for... By genome ( Thursday, March 29, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote] I am thinking of changing the initial state of the duration... By Poolzone ( Thursday, March 29, 2007 )
Forum Post I have switched details of the Timeline feature over to... By genome ( Monday, April 2, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]Ron (3/29/2007)[/b][hr]I am thinking of changing the initial... By 22101956 ( Thursday, March 29, 2007 )
Forum Post Hi Ron, I got the following error when I try to generate a report. :(... By haep ( Wednesday, March 28, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]haep (3/28/2007)[/b][hr] Error at line 117 (timeline.json)... By genome ( Wednesday, March 28, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]Ron (3/28/2007)[/b][hr] Sorry Hugo, I moved the function... By haep ( Wednesday, March 28, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]Ron (3/28/2007)[/b][hr][quote][b]haep (3/28/2007)[/b][hr]... By IainTait ( Wednesday, March 28, 2007 )
Forum Post Iain, could it be that you opened index.html in the skin folder and... By genome ( Wednesday, March 28, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]Ron (3/28/2007)[/b][hr]Iain, could it be that you opened... By IainTait ( Wednesday, March 28, 2007 )
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Forum Post [quote][b]maru-san (3/28/2007)[/b][hr]So instead of having a timeline... By genome ( Tuesday, March 27, 2007 )
Forum Post Hi Ron, This version is fabulous with the vertical scroll bar. The... By IainTait ( Tuesday, March 27, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]IainTait (3/28/2007)[/b][hr] The only problem that I have... By genome ( Wednesday, March 28, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]Ron (3/28/2007)[/b][hr]Both these errors indicate that your... By IainTait ( Wednesday, March 28, 2007 )
Forum Post I did notice that death events only have the first name of the... By blodulv ( Monday, March 26, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]blodulv (3/26/2007)[/b][hr]I did notice that death events... By genome ( Monday, March 26, 2007 )
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Forum Post Hi Iain, you do seem to pick up more than your fair share of problems!... By genome ( Saturday, March 24, 2007 )
Forum Post Thanks for your patience Ron !:hehe: By IainTait ( Sunday, March 25, 2007 )
Forum Post Ron, I do not know whether it can be done, but hyperlinked persons on... By maru-san ( Monday, March 26, 2007 )
Forum Post I think the attached revision deals with multiple hyperlinks per... By genome ( Monday, March 26, 2007 )
Forum Post Ron, this feature is developing well. It really fills a big gap in the... By Poolzone ( Monday, March 26, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]poolzone (3/26/2007)[/b][hr]1. I seem to have marriagees... By genome ( Tuesday, March 27, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote]1. I seem to have marriagees with blue time lines where they... By Poolzone ( Tuesday, March 27, 2007 )
Forum Post Yes, Ron I can confirm that on 3. above, the timeline button does... By Poolzone ( Monday, March 26, 2007 )
Forum Post I know its been a while but I have been trying several alternative... By genome ( Thursday, March 22, 2007 )
Forum Post Hi Ron, Just a note on original zoom setting. When the first born... By Poolzone ( Thursday, March 22, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]poolzone (3/22/2007)[/b][hr]When the first born individual... By genome ( Thursday, March 22, 2007 )
Forum Post Hi Ron, You forgot to include a copy of Util.vbs (for those that... By Poolzone ( Thursday, March 22, 2007 )
Forum Post Thanks for the feedback poolzone . I was aware of your earlier... By genome ( Thursday, March 22, 2007 )
Forum Post Fabulous job Ron, though I found a wide empty part in the middle... By IainTait ( Thursday, March 22, 2007 )
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Forum Post [quote][b]Ron (3/23/2007)[/b][hr][quote][b]IainTait... By IainTait ( Saturday, March 24, 2007 )
Forum Post That'll be 'cos I haven't posted the new code yet. The phrase ' later... By genome ( Saturday, March 24, 2007 )
Forum Post Ok I am ready with the next iteration of the Timeline report add-in.... By genome ( Saturday, March 24, 2007 )
Forum Post Great work Ron, thanks for this feature. No new problems uncovered.... By Poolzone ( Saturday, March 24, 2007 )
Forum Post Not sure if someone has found this bug yet, but if I have a birthdate... By blodulv ( Friday, March 23, 2007 )
Forum Post Hi, Ron, this is a nice feature. The only small thing I have found is,... By fbukolyi ( Tuesday, March 13, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]fbukolyi (3/13/2007)[/b][hr]Hi, Ron, this is a nice... By haep ( Tuesday, March 13, 2007 )
Forum Post Thanks for the info Hugo it was useful. I think I used the '&X'... By genome ( Tuesday, March 13, 2007 )
Forum Post Great feature Ron. It works very well for me as I have separate maps... By Poolzone ( Wednesday, March 14, 2007 )
Forum Post Ron, Being able to call the Timeline from the Individual page by... By Poolzone ( Wednesday, March 14, 2007 )
Forum Post Ron, after I had introduced this timeline of course we were not aware... By maru-san ( Wednesday, March 14, 2007 )
Forum Post I bet this can be handled in a report. Anyone want to take a stab at... By rdn ( Tuesday, November 21, 2006 )
Forum Post Our solution is having a dialog/tab the occupations listing all the... By GenoProSupport ( Tuesday, November 21, 2006 )
Forum Post Have also looked into the creation and use of timeline reports and... By maru-san ( Thursday, March 8, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote]A xml driven software like shown in... By genome ( Thursday, March 8, 2007 )
Forum Post Thanks Ron, have included on my page already a sample (#3), although... By maru-san ( Friday, March 9, 2007 )
Forum Post As always, scripting web pages turns out to be a bit harder than first... By genome ( Sunday, March 11, 2007 )
Forum Post Thanks a lot for your quick work, [b]ron[/b]. Have tried (after having... By maru-san ( Sunday, March 11, 2007 )
Forum Post Yes I forgot the timeline images. I have now added them to the zip... By genome ( Sunday, March 11, 2007 )
Forum Post Fantastic work Ron! In my first review it looks superb. Is there a... By gv ( Sunday, March 11, 2007 )
Forum Post Ron, if it gets crowded on the timeline, how about trying to use the... By maru-san ( Sunday, March 11, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]Ron (3/11/2007)[/b][hr]Yes I forgot the timeline images. I... By IainTait ( Sunday, March 11, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]IainTait (3/11/2007)[/b][hr] [5.40] Processing template... By genome ( Sunday, March 11, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]Ron (3/11/2007)[/b][hr]Then your customized skin is somehow... By IainTait ( Monday, March 12, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]IainTait (3/12/2007)[/b][hr]I did what you said and of... By genome ( Monday, March 12, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]Ron (3/12/2007)[/b][hr]Do all of the missing individuals... By IainTait ( Monday, March 12, 2007 )
Forum Post Iain, try to create a timeline with a smaller number of people, lets... By maru-san ( Monday, March 12, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]maru-san (3/12/2007)[/b][hr]Iain, try to create a timeline... By IainTait ( Tuesday, March 13, 2007 )
Forum Post I'll try and answer the queries. Firstly vertical style is not... By genome ( Tuesday, March 13, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote][b]Ron (3/13/2007)[/b][hr]I'll try and answer the queries. As... By IainTait ( Tuesday, March 13, 2007 )
Forum Post [quote]A xml driven software like shown in... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, March 8, 2007 )
Forum Post Having a timeline is a feature on our "todo" list. We have not... By GenoProSupport ( Sunday, November 19, 2006 )


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