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Posted Saturday, April 25, 2009 - Post #24011
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Howard53 (4/23/2009)
I can only reiterate - hyperlinks can only exist for individuals. If no individual with remaining family in the existing GenoMap is selected, then the selection will be moved, no hyperlink created, and the selected components in the original GenoMap deleted.

As an alternative in the first example, if you deselect the family line to your father from the selection (hold shift and click on the line) then when the family is moved a hyperlink will be created to his first wife and the family line will remain on the original GenoMap.

There is one other possibility which is causing the confusion: is your father connected as a parent to the family line for his first wife? Pull the family line down to see if there is a connection.


I understand that a hyperlink is a "property" of an individual.

I am not sure what you define as "no individual with remaining family in the existing GenoMap" since my fathers daughter, my half sister, is moved to the new GenoMap built on her mother, his first wife, and that leaves him as family remaining in the original GenoMap, to say nothing of myself and my sister (both of us from his second marriage), does it not? And yet no link was built on anyone (see the video).

The "family line" is the horizontal line showing wife and husband names, divorce (in this case) and number of children? If so, moving this line down draws down the line from both the wife and the husband. This confirms he is connected, does it not?

What I don't understand, at the bottom of it all, is that creating a GenoMap worked exactly as I expected for a number of other "marriage/divorce" relationships in the original and yet for my sister's marriage and my father's first marriage it just doesn't work.

I guess you have given me information to work with and at some point I may rebuild my original tree using GenoMaps from the start. I will also look into creating a hyperlink on each person I wish to remove off to a "family" of their own to make readability easier.

I also want to become comfortable with putting two GenoMaps back together as one at some point. I am very inexperienced in the use of this software so maybe practice is what I need right now.

Thank you for your time and attention to this request for assistance. You may consider this thread closed.


Edited: Sunday, April 26, 2009 by AlB
Posted Thursday, April 23, 2009 - Post #23998
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I can only reiterate - hyperlinks can only exist for individuals. If no individual with remaining family in the existing GenoMap is selected, then the selection will be moved, no hyperlink created, and the selected components in the original GenoMap deleted.

As an alternative in the first example, if you deselect the family line to your father from the selection (hold shift and click on the line) then when the family is moved a hyperlink will be created to his first wife and the family line will remain on the original GenoMap.

There is one other possibility which is causing the confusion: is your father connected as a parent to the family line for his first wife? Pull the family line down to see if there is a connection.


Edited: Thursday, April 23, 2009 by Howard53
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Posted Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - Post #23997
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Howard53 (4/22/2009)
Thanks for supplying the animated screen capture - it clarifies the 'problem'.

In the first example, no individual with any remaining family in the original GenoMap is moved, so no hyperlink is created



I don't understand. My father remains in the original GenoMap and his daughter, Lucille, IS moved, on Ruby, his first wife, to the Cohen GenoMap. Not only is no link created but the marriage (divorced) doesn't show in the original GenoMap.

My daughter's second husband is moved and no remaining family other than his wife, my daughter, remains and a link IS built so the marriage shows still. My sister's husband is moved with their three sons and his wife, my sister, remains in the original GenoMap and NO link is built and no marriage is shown.

I see no consistency here.
Posted Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - Post #23990
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Thanks for supplying the animated screen capture - it clarifies the 'problem'.

In the examples you show, the reason a hyperlink is being created when you move the second tree is that there is family remaining (of your father) in the original GenoMap, so the hyperlink is created to maintain the link. In the first example, no individual with any remaining family in the original GenoMap is moved, so no hyperlink is created - if your father was also selected before the move, a hyperlink would again be created.

As I indicated in my original reply, hyperlinks will not be created from a family line, only from individuals (I believe this has been suggested previously as a possible feature in a future version of GenoPro).

If you don't want the hyperlink you can change the action in the hyperlink tab of the individual's properties,
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Posted Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - Post #23988
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The file plays in Windows Media Player. It is 4 meg in size.

You may download it from http://www.4shared.com/file/100639247/d6e3e6dd/GenoMapIssue.html
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Posted Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - Post #23987
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I can try an animated screen capture of the event if you think it will help.
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Posted Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - Post #23986
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I am not trying to create hyperlinks. They are created as a result of building a new GenoMap to move a part of the original tree to its own page for increased readability.

My focus on the hyperlink was because that is where the process fails me.

When the GenoMap is built for my fathers first wife her tree is moved to the new GenoMap but no link is built to get back to the original tree. Her name is literally moved off the page. When the GenoMap is built for my fathers second wife, my mother, the hyperlink is built and even though her tree is moved to the new GenoMap her name remains in the original tree with the hyperlink as does the marriage.


Edited: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 by AlB
Posted Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - Post #23985
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This is a case where it is difficult to analyse what is happening without seeing the processes being carried out in real time. However, reading your comments, I wonder whether you are attempting to create hyperlinks when selecting more than one individual at a time. Hyperlinks are limited to a single individual for each instance - if you wish to link more than one individual you have to set up hyperlinks separately for each individual. You cannot hyperlink the Family or Descendent lines.
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Posted Monday, April 20, 2009 - Post #23984
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Following this thread is the closest I have found to my problem. I viewed the video (more than once) on creating GenoMaps. I have been very successful in what I was attempting to do (breaking up a big tree) but now I seem to have run into an inconsistency in the results. I'm using Version 2.0.1.6. The tree was built almost ten years ago using version 1.7 I think.

Creating a GenoMap for my daughters first husband created the family for his tree and left him in the original tree, hyperlinked. Creating a GenoMap for her second husband worked the same.

Applying it to my wife worked the same. That is leaving her in the original tree, hyperlinked as the others were.

When I try to create a GenoMap for my sister's husband. It does not work. He is MOVED to the new GenoMap AND no link is made since he no longer exists in the original tree. If I include her in the link (click Mate) the tree in the new GenoMap is built with her as the link but he is removed from the original so the marriage no longer shows in the original tree.

A similar issue arises for a half sister of mine when I try to create a new GenoMap for her mother. The Mother and her child and the child's mate all go to the new GenoMap but no link is built and she (the mother) only appears in the new GenoMap. If I include my father he gets a link but the first marriage does not show in the original tree. Both marriages show for my daughter, both show for my wife? The mate is simply hyper linked. When I built my mother's GenoMap for her family it worked fine. She remains in the original tree and is a hyperlink.

The process seems to work for my daughter's marriages but one generation up the tree from her it does not seem to work consistently (for me, anyway).

I have found it difficult to follow exactly what order to click the icons for including people when the tree has any size to it. Is it just me or does it actually make a difference?
Posted Sunday, December 21, 2008 - Post #23278
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You are not doing anything wrong. These are hyperlinks (see http://www.genopro.com/help/hyperlinks/) and mean that these individuals still have relatives on the original genomap. They provide a method of quickly navigating back and forth between branches split over two or more genomaps and show how the two branches are linked. To clear these, either move the rest of the family over or if required sever the link by deleting the corresponding individual on the original genomap,


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