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Hi, I've just downloaded the software and making sure to try things to see if they work in my way.
I've found some things that doesn't seem to work. I can't see any option to choose the middle name as the main name, cause that's common in Sweden, Like someone can be named Lisa Anna, but the main name is Anna. I can't see any option to show the diffrence for old names that didn't have a main name, their name could be Hans Jacob, and both would be the main name. Shouldn't there be an option to make the main name in bold? but if there's a third name, how would you do then if your main was the middle one with only 2 feilds to fill in.
I also have diffrence when I adding ancestors in the 1400, cause then it often say "died about 1489". or "still lived 1413". I cant put that information into the program, it just transforms it to numbers.
Maybe I'm wrong and just haven't learned the program, but this is important features for me that absolutely affect my decision for buying the product or not.
I see now that it's not possible to choose title as the person, that's strange since you got no nobillty or royalty titles to choose. I hope it's just me being unused to the program and that these feature really does exist
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For your first problem you can use the Nickname box. Put the second name that you want to feature there and then look at the options in the Display Name box. It will not be ideal but you can feature the main name in quotes, or choose an alternative.
Not sure about your problems with the 1400 data. The date should not make any difference, so is it a problem that some information is missing?
As far as Title goes you can add to the list shown top right. You will then need to adjust the Display Name to get it to show on the tree diagram
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Hi and thank you for a fast reply.
I think it's a problem if you just know that someone died about 1465 or if you just know there's documentation of him that year so you know he still lived that year. then I don't want it to say that he died exactly that year.
Good with the titles tho. I'll see if I can solve the name issue with your advice. Then we'll see about the years that I find complicated if I can't solve, since I come from a family with very old history, our family was first mentioned in the 1100. and I got many other sidelines of the family (not swordline) that reach very far back in time where there's alot of exact information missing.
I think your product seems great and probably better then other product I've seen. But I'm a bit pedantic when it comes to this sort of things.
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You raise some interesting points which are not well documented, and would require a detailed search of this forum to find the information.
For any individual, both the Full Name (which is used in the report) and the Display Name are fully editable on the General Tab of the properties. You can, therefore, report or display any information you want for that individual. However, this is a per-individual option, so you cannot set your own default option for the Names displays. appleshaw's suggestion works best for the report as the Nickname is specifically mentioned in the Narrative Report.
There is no option at present to display names in bold - I capitalise the name usually used. Many people, however, capitalise the Last Name, so this is not a universal solution.
As regards the date - GenoPro can display approximate dates. if you enter 'abt1489' or '~1489' in a date field, then '~1489' will be displayed (and reported). Similarly, you can use '<1400' or '>1400' to show before or after 1400 respectively.
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Thank you, it sounds like that could work, I'll try writing with capitals, but I think the abillity to write name in bold should be inplemented in future updates.
Seems like everything might be covered then 
btw I got another question and don't wanna start a new topic just for that. When people shows the family relations in book there use to be a register where you can see the realation between family members, by only looking at the text. A reference at a person can look like this "65 aCe bb" and you can see what line it is, and how it's related to the diffrent people. I hope you understand what I mean. Is it possible to convert the tree to a register with your software?
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As I understand it, in Sweden someone can have any number of 'first' names and they can choose which of these they are known by (i.e. their main name). It may be the first, second, third or even last of their 'first' names. There is an option in the Narrative Report whereby if you prefix the chosen name by an underscore '_' character then that element of the name will be underlined (rather than be in bold) in the Narrative Report. So I suggest you do not use nickname but put all names in the First Name field with an underscore before the required chosen main name. You can use some other character (e.g. *) other than underscore by changing the 'Marker' element in Dictionary.xml
As regards a register, the RTF version of the Descendant Tree Chart does have options for the reference prefixing each individual's details, but I don't know if it is adequate for your purposes.
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Ron (6/25/2010)
As I understand it, in Sweden someone can have any number of 'first' names and they can choose which of these they are known by (i.e. their main name). It may be the first, second, third or even last of their 'first' names. There is an option in the Narrative Report whereby if you prefix the chosen name by an underscore '_' character then that element of the name will be underlined (rather than be in bold) in the Narrative Report. So I suggest you do not use nickname but put all names in the First Name field with an underscore before the required chosen main name. You can use some other character (e.g. *) other than underscore by changing the 'Marker' element in Dictionary.xml As regards a register, the RTF version of the Descendant Tree Chart does have options for the reference prefixing each individual's details, but I don't know if it is adequate for your purposes.
Thank you!
Men born <1850 seems to have 2 names or in rare cases only 1 name, and they seem to use both names (Royalty still use to use 2 names and got in average 4). Now people in Sweden got 2 or 3 names (in rare case even more) but only use one (If they don't have double name like Karl-Erik). You choose the order that sound best, like my fathers name was Gustaf Magnus, and Magnus was the main name. Even if it's in that order, Gustaf is called second name.
Your solution sound great, even if I didn't manage to do it yet, but I think I could find out if I try some more.
What I mean with a register is that I wanna be able to print out all my material and you should be able to see all my familys ancestors and see how they are related. I think that a tree even in big paper format wouldn't work very well. Since Swedish nobillity always married to other nobillity and all got long and well documented history reaching all the way back to <1400. I think the tree would be too big.
It's great too see such a helpful community
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