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I just found GenoPro (and love it). I imported a gedcom and really like the way the html charts are created. I often use Adobe Acrobat Writer to create pdf from web sites. I love Arabian horses and my fear is that one day all of this incredible history won't be there. So I know it works, as some of these web sites are pretty large and have a tremendous amount of content. One I just saved has 1000 pages. And every clickable link from the web site carried over to the pdf.
My little family tree only has a couple hundred names so I figured this would be a cinch. I tell it to get the whole site (on my hard drive) and it will get the initial page but the names don't have the clickable link. So I try going down 3 levels, same result.
It seems Acrobat Writer would not be at fault as it can do other much larger web pages. And I tried saving the newly created genopro web page to a single mht file and that works. I can use mht but not everyone uses Internet Explorer. Everyone has Acrobat Reader.
Is my problem solvable? Ideally it would be great if GenoPro can make a viewer for generated single files - for relatives who really aren't that interested in genealogy but later on wish they were. But in the meantime I would love to get Acrobat Writer going if it can be done.
Soahs
Edited: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 by
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Forum Members GenoPro version: 2.5.3.9
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I tried doing the same thing with Gramps software. Similar to GenoPro (but not hear as nice) Gramps also publishes to web. And I CAN create pdf from the web page it makes, with all the links good. So apparently it is something in GenoPro that is interfering. Soahs
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You are welcome to send me your .gno file and I will send your .pdf by email. I use CutePDF to create PDF documents.
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Thanks for the offer but I think you misunderstand. I think cute pdf prints only. It does not create pdf. And that's a big difference. If you print to pdf that's all it does. You have what a printer would print. No live links.
However, create pdf from web page lets you have all the clickable links. The resulting pdf acts exactly like the web page. Click on any link and go there. Which means the entire family tree can be sent to anyone as a clickable live links pdf file.
I have to revise my statement that Adobe Acrobat Writer does not include all the pages in the generated web site. It does. Just not as actual pages but as code. So it is obviously something in GenoPro's coding that prevents Acrobat Writer from making pages.
Soahs
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I have now come to the conclusion that there is something in GenoPro that is preventing a pdf with links. Gramps software works. Then I tried Legacy Family Tree (the older freebie) and that works. Both let me make a pdf that looks and acts exactly like the web page with clickable links. However their reports aren't near as nice as GenoPro.
Can GenoPro support look into this? Please. I love the program but I have to have the pdf that I can send to other family members that don't want to take the time to learn and run family tree software.
Soahs
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Please say what version of Adobe Acrobat you are using to run the conversion (e.g. Acrobat X Pro?). Perhaps I can then download a trial version to see the problem first hand. I would also like to know if all links in the web report are affected or just those in the index frame.
They need absolutely no knowledge of GenoPro in order to access the generated Narrative Report on a web site via a web browser. I do not understand why you want a PDF that functions exactly like the web pages.
'lego audio video erro ergo disco' or "I read, I listen, I watch, I make mistakes, therefore I learn"
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I am using Adobe Acrobat 9 Pro (version 9.0). I want a pdf that functions exactly like a web page because the pdf is portable, it can be emailed, it is small and it's pretty neat to use. The html has 10 million files (well seems like it) while the pdf has just one.
My 84 year old uncle doesn't even know when he is no longer in Outlook Express or has ventured onto the browser. He wanted to know his password for Outlook Express to connect and I told him 1234. He said to wait while he got a pen and paper to write it down. I'm not kidding this really happened. This is what I am up against! But a pdf, I make a shortcut to the web-page-in-a-pdf and he just clicks on the short cut and Acrobat Reader opens, he clicks on whatever name he wants and goes there. This he can do. Neither he or my 87 year old aunt can handle opening an actual program and running it. But they can handle a pdf file. It is sometimes pretty hard for older people to retain learning especially when they are by themselves. After several years my uncle finally is able to download his mail by himself. Was he ever proud of that. Yes it is possible to download a fully functioning trial of Acrobat Pro but it is version x from Adobe (10). People like 9 better but they should work the same. https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=acrobat_pro&loc=enThe main page appears fine in Acrobat. But when I go to click on any of the names on the main page I get the needs-a-link- icon. Normally I can right click and append to document and it will go and fetch whatever the link is. But not for GenoPro, it says general error. But get this - if I tell it to go to the web page instead, it will. Very strange. I happened to page down and actually Acrobat did do the entire thing, but rather than fully formed pages that look just like the web, there is instead a code like so: The following is on each page for each person. If you like I can send you the pdf from genopro and also from gramps which turned out successfully. The html from Gramps looks much more traditional. The html from GenoPro is a little different. Gramps looks pretty good except the charts look rather amateurish compared to GenoPro. And GenoPro is what I want. 0 HEAD 1 SOUR GenoPro 2 NAME GenoPro® - Picture Your Family Tree!(TM) 2 VERS 2.5.3.8 2 CORP GenoPro 2 ADDR http://www.genopro.com 1 DATE 24 MAY 2011 1 CHAR UTF-8 1 GEDC 2 VERS 5.5 2 FORM LINAGE-LINKED 0 GLOBAL 1 NAME 2 FULL 3 FORMAT %T %F (%N) %M %L (%L2) %S 2 DISPLAY 3 FORMAT %F %M %L (%L2) 3 LINES 3 1 FONT Arial 1 DISPLAY 2 TAG DoB_DoD_2lines 2 COLORS 3 GENDER 4 SYMBOL #000000 4 TEXT #000000 4 FILL #FFFFFF 4 FILL 5 TOP 6 LEFT #FF0000 6 RIGHT #FF0000 5 BOTTOM 6 LEFT #FF0000 6 RIGHT #FF0000 3 BORDER 4 OUTLINE #000080 4 FILL #FFFF80 3 LABEL 4 TOP #000000 4 BOTTOM #000000 4 FILL 5 TOP #FFFFFF 5 BOTTOM #FFFFFF 1 TAGS 2 ID Individual 2 TAGDATA 3 NAME EVEN 3 DISPLAYNAME EVEN 2 TAGDATA 3 NAME EVEN.TYPE 3 DISPLAYNAME EVEN.TYPE 2 TAGDATA 3 NAME ALIA 3 DISPLAYNAME ALIA file:///C|/genopro_htmlreport/FamilyTree.ged[5/25/2011 2:05:02 PM] 1 TAGS 2 ID Family 2 TAGDATA 3 NAME CHIL._FREL 3 DISPLAYNAME CHIL._FREL 2 TAGDATA 3 NAME CHIL._MREL 3 DISPLAYNAME CHIL._MREL 2 TAGDATA 3 NAME EVEN 3 DISPLAYNAME EVEN 2 TAGDATA 3 NAME EVEN.TYPE 3 DISPLAYNAME EVEN.TYPE 1 DOCUMENT 2 TITL my first report 2 DESCRIPTION my 2 NOTE first 1 ACTIVEGENOMAP GenoMap1 0 GENOMAP 1 NAME GenoMap1 1 ZOOM 50 1 POSITION 8,-12 1 BOUNDARYRECT -1931,946,1947,-971 0 GENOMAP 1 NAME GenoMap2 0 GENOMAP 1 NAME GenoMap3 0 @I6@ INDI 1 NAME Bertram /Sampson/ 2 DISPLAY Bertram Sampson 2 GIVN Bertram 2 SURN Sampson 1 POSITION 190,410 2 BOUNDARYRECT 159,436,220,363 1 SEX M 1 FAMS @F3@ 1 FAMC @F4@ 0 @I1@ INDI
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Ok, I downloaded Acrobat X Pro trial and atempted to convert a Report from the Harry Potter sample .gno. The HTML report consists of some 750 files and occupies some 5Mbytes. The links always converted correctly to PDF links but I encountered several other issues.
My first observation was that it is soooo slooooow! Acrobat does not appear to use a cache and downloads each icon/jpg/gif time and time again as they are repeated on many pages. I then discovered it followed links for timelines and genomaps for every individual and attempted to generate a PDF page for each. When after an hour or so it reached some 3000 pdf pages I gave it the chop. I decided to try again without genomaps, Google Maps or Timelines as these did not function within PDFs. I discovered a bug in the Narrative eport which prevents generation of a Report without Genomaps. The fix for this is to change line 355 of Config.xml from to (I'll release a new version of the skin soon with this correction)
I also noted that the index frames needed to be fully expanded to allow links to be seen in the PDF. (set limit before indexes collapsed to -1). However when this setting was used every HTML page had the full index which extended over several PDF pages. When the generated PDF file exceeded 50Mbytes I stopped the conversion.
Finally I also set the Config Option in the report skin to auto hide the index frame. This resulted in the most successful conversion to PDF format producing a 6Mbyte PDF.
A major problem still remains however. The Narrative Report is designed without fixed width pages but so that text flows to the width of the browser window that the user has chosen to use. Acrobat seems to have no mechanism to wrap text to the page and so strings text into a continuous long line. When this line exceeds the chosen page width for the PDF it then scales these long lines to fit the page. It is then necessary to zoom in on each page to say 300% to read it. This is absurd and surely a major short-coming of Acrobat. Possibly there is something I have missed here.
In conclusion I find that Acrobat X Pro can convert GenoPro Narrative Reports with the above limitations. Maybe there are updates for Acrobat 9 Pro to fix the problem of links?
'lego audio video erro ergo disco' or "I read, I listen, I watch, I make mistakes, therefore I learn"
Edited: Monday, May 30, 2011 by
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I am having all sorts of troubles. I used html-kit to look at config.sml and there aren't that many lines in config.xml, not even 300 but I did find the line none to change and made it none none (with proper code). And I changed the set limit before indexes collapsed to -1. I could not find the config option in the report skin. I am still getting the same as before so am going to download and try Acrobat X. The size of the lines should not vary like you were getting. I used Version 9 to download an Arabian horse history site of 1000 pages (to save for myself in case it wouldn't be there one day). And the pdf looked exactly like on the web.
Maybe version X is doing this, everybody hates it and uninstalls and is going back to 9. And maybe it is version 9 that won't make the links in GenoPro. Be back a little later. Soahs
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When you run a report the first menu to appear has tabs. Open the Options tab and the top left button turns the config options on/off
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