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Customers Gamma GenoPro version: 3.0.1.4
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I have two (well, more than two, but two is sufficient) .gno files. In one, I can display BC dates by entering them in the date fields as text data, and they display in the individual headers normally. In the other .gno file, if I have anything other than properly formatted dates in the date fields, the contents disappear from the genogram display. I am at my wits' end and swearing out loud at my computer. What is going on?????
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Edited: Saturday, October 25, 2014 by
Jakk
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Administrators Customers Important Contributors FamilyTrees.GenoPro.com GenoPro version: 3.1.0.1
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Check your Menu/Display setting. If 'Year of Birth and Year of Death' text displays, but if 'Date of Birth and Date of Death' then only true dates display.
'lego audio video erro ergo disco' or "I read, I listen, I watch, I make mistakes, therefore I learn"
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Customers Gamma GenoPro version: 3.0.1.4
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Interesting... I found a checkbox "display genogram dates" that wasn't checked... but checking it displays the date as "[blank] - [date]" instead of the usual "D. [date]" (for cases when the date of death is the only date known). Maybe I'm hallucinating this due to fatigue and just need to sleep. I'll check back in the morning... or afternoon...
Many thanks to any who can manage to convince me that I'm not insane. 
Edit: Thanks, genome. I'll check that out.
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Edited: Saturday, October 25, 2014 by
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Customers Gamma GenoPro version: 3.0.1.4
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Yep, that was the problem. Okay, so I'll look like an idiot *before* the morning... maybe that will allow me to sleep. 
On a related note: Why do dates get so much more left-right padding than names? Names run into the borders (of individuals that have borders and backgrounds displayed) all the time, but if I add a date (which takes up far less room, because I only display years), I get all kinds of extra room on the sides that it didn't give me before. I know this probably belongs in bug reports, but I would love for this to be fixed... and yes, I know development outside of report skins is still on hold. 
Edit: Just a thought, but if something (like, say, the aforementioned display setting) is set as a checkmark on a menu item in the program, shouldn't it be a global setting applied to all files? Something more for the next version's wish list, I guess...
Anyway, time for this overtired genealogist to get some sleep.
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Edited: Saturday, October 25, 2014 by
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Administrators Customers Important Contributors FamilyTrees.GenoPro.com GenoPro version: 3.1.0.1
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Looks as if GenoPro leaves enough space for birth AND death dates even if only one is present. try adding the other date and you will see the border is unchanged.
A work-around would be to put the date(s) into a Custom Tag and have GenoPro display that tag instead of birth/death fields. Can be done with XML Toolkit. I for one would not want display settings to be universal. Changing a setting in one .gno and then finding later that all you other ones had changed would be horrendous. Hope you managed a good night's rest
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Customers Gamma GenoPro version: 3.0.1.4
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I did get a decent rest, thanks; still going to turn in early tonight, though.
I'll have to play with the XML Toolkit. I've been meaning to get into XML for several years now; maybe this will be the motivator that actually succeeds. 
I agree re: settings being universal when you put it that way. Maybe that means that how those settings are managed in the program should be different, then... maybe in the file properties dialog box somewhere. It's just that, to my experience as a software user, if it's set in the program settings (as in the case of a checkmark on a menu item), I interpret that to mean that it's a global setting, and when it isn't, it confounds my sense of logic and expectation.
I'm in the process of merging about a dozen files into one file using separate GenoMaps; that's when I discovered the aforementioned inconsistency. Not sure when that one file got changed; I haven't noticed it in any of the others so far, but now I know what I'm looking for if it happens again. 
Edit: Re: Borders: I wasn't complaining that there was too much padding for the dates; my complaint is that there is no (or even negative) padding for the name text sometimes. What would be great is if GenoPro allowed the boxes to be treated like HTML borders, specifying margins and padding for both inner and outer spacing, preventing the names and borders from colliding. I would make it a general setting per document, rather than a specific setting per individual, just to keep the number of formatting values to a minimum; the program already has to record three values for each object's central positioning (X, Y, and GenoMap name), in addition to the informational data, and that seems like enough to me.
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Edited: Saturday, October 25, 2014 by
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Customers Gamma GenoPro version: 3.0.1.4
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I was fiddling about with zoom levels, and I realized that the problem with text margins (which I mentioned in my third post in this topic, and again in the last post before this one) is an illusionary one caused by my preferred zoom level, which I almost never go larger than. At any zoom level larger or smaller than my preferred level, the text fits inside the text boxes perfectly, but at my ideal level for symbol size and (mostly) amount of genogram visible, the text seems to collide with and overflow the borders because it shrinks everything *except* the font size at that level. So... the issue I was asking to be solved doesn't really exist, except at that one level, which is four "clicks" of the mouse wheel smaller than default.
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Edited: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 by
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