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Hello I agree, Nice to see that GenoPro continue.. I test it. My first feedback ,nice tool The Spotter...
Minorsproblems, nice to have once a warning, could it be possible to validate the situation and remove it from the Spotter?
- The child was born 3 months after his/her father died, - > but should be an alert if it’s more than 9 months perhaps
Another more tricky
- The child should appear below the family line (I don't really understand the problem) See picture Natural Child.
- The family has a single parent -> Yes it's true, it’s life… what a shame to not be able to solve it (I have nearly 10 naturals children in my tree) So I suppose I will have always these 10 alerts. See also picture Natural Child.
- I have strange situation with twins born on different dates (3_twins pictures) I have this 3 times on my tree, automatically the Spotter will say:
- If I connect all 3 on Twins : Children having the same date of birth should be twins
- If not (as is it on the picture) The child was born 2 days after his older sibling
Many thanks
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The child was born 2 days after his older sibling I didn't know it was even possible!
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I have had the same report, and I believe it happens when the father has only a year specified as the date of death, whereas the child has the exact date of birth. The calculation is happening from the end of the year instead of the start.
A similar problem shows up between siblings when the older one has only a year specified as date of birth.
Edited: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 by
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The documentation at http://www.genopro.com/help/problem-spotter/ was correct, but the implementation in the code was buggy regarding a child born after his/her father's death. I fixed the code and GenoPro will no longer report warning if a child is born within 300 days (about 10 months) after his/her father's death.
Also, I added a new problem if a child has 2 or more biological families. The fixes are available in version 2.9.0.2.
By the way, the Problem Spotter will be significantly improved for GenoProX, where you will have the option to ignore a problem for an individual and/or family with the option to write a comment why the problem should be ignored. The Problem Spotter of GenoPro 2016 was designed to quickly find typos and common errors, however it is not 100% reliable as there will be always special cases where the reported 'problem' is not really a problem because you decided to make your family tree in a special way. Also, we want GenoProX to do animal pedigree, so the problem spotter will be a bit customization, such as: for humans, the birth of each child should be at least 9 months apart, however for cats, it is much shorter, and different for dogs and horses. Same for sexual maturity and longevity.
Edited: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 by
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Now that the problem spotter is there, have tried it on smaller files first and it works nice. So I tried it on my biggest file and eliminated first the older than ... problem using the table layout. There were app. 30 to 40 of such cases. Tried to safe my file, but it says I am low on memory, after having cached the pictures. Pointed me to a retry for saving twice or three times, without success and crashed then my genopro.
Would like to locate certain problems one by one rather than all at once. Can this be done?
Besides I do not see the incorrect arrangements of children as a problem, since in some instances it my be necessary to arrange differently due to space problems. If the family summary shows the children in the correct order than this should be accepted by the spotter.
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maru-san (14-Jul-2015) Tried to safe my file, but it says I am low on memory, after having cached the pictures. Pointed me to a retry for saving twice or three times, without success and crashed then my genopro.The long-term solution is to have a thumbnail generator with proper caching and flushing when the cache is getting full or old. Again, this is something that will be done for GenoProX, as I have a pretty good idea how to do it. The cache will also be shareable, so if you send a family tree to someone else, the recipient will be able to fetch thumbnails and the full picture directly from you. In the meantime, if you want to show a lot of pictures at once, make the pictures a bit smaller. I understand it is a lot of work. You may use IrfanView; it has a tool to transform (reduce/resample) pictures for an entire folder and copy the modified pictures into another folder. IrfanView is a very useful tool. Would like to locate certain problems one by one rather than all at once. Can this be done? Yes, select a group of objects or a branch of your family tree and press Ctrl+E. Besides I do not see the incorrect arrangements of children as a problem, since in some instances it my be necessary to arrange differently due to space problems. If the family summary shows the children in the correct order than this should be accepted by the spotter.
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maru-san (14-Jul-2015) Besides I do not see the incorrect arrangements of children as a problem, since in some instances it my be necessary to arrange differently due to space problems. If the family summary shows the children in the correct order than this should be accepted by the spotter.
I think it is convenient that spotter gives you a warning regarding incorrect display order of child, as children should be displayed by date of birth. Indeed in some cases this is not possible, but those are more or less exceptions.
Anyway, spotter has a bug - if a child is not placed among siblings in accordance with his/hers date of birth, spotter lists wrong sibling as being misplaced. This problem arise when older sibling is placed after younger siblings (see attachment). However, if younger sibling is placed before older, problem spotter detect error correctly and indeed lists misplaced sibling.
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Users of GenoPro 2016 will have noticed that report templates (aka skins) are now installed in your nominated skins folder.
Please ensure that if you wish to make your own modifications to these 'skins' then copy the original folder to a new folder and apply your amendments there. e.g. copy '{EN} Narrative Report' to '{EN} My Narrative'.Also if you wish to modify scripts in the 'Narrative Common' folder then first delete the 'Code' folder from your skin copy e.g. from '{EN} My Narrative' created as above and then copy 'Narrative Common/Code' to it. e.g. copy 'Narrative Common/Code' to '{EN} My Narrative/Code' and amend files in this folder.The contents of the installed skin folders will be overwritten if a new version of GenoPro 2016 is installed.
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@maru-san: Do you have a sample file I can test the code before posting an update? Thanks.@Novak: The way the Problem Spotter works is it sorts children first. In the screenshot you posted, there is Child 1, Child 3, Child 4 and Child 2. Therefore the 'problem' is with Child 3 being in incorrect order. The Problem Spotter is finding the first error and reports it without being too fancy about the other related errors (such as Child 2 being also in incorrect order). By the way, if you click on the top right icon ( http://www.genopro.com/help/problem-spotter/Problem-Spotter-Objects.png ), I am pretty sure it will select Child 2. By the way, version 2.9.0.4 has a fix where hyperlinked parents were counted more than once, resulting in an incorrect number of parents reported by the Problem Spotter.
Edited: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 by
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