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Hi to all. My congratulations too to Dan Morin for his great work. I just purchased GenoPro, after using the unregistered version 1.91 for a couple of months, having created more than 1,100 people-entries in my (and my wife's) family tree. The program is great and I love it!
A feature I love but *wonder* whether it can be improved is 'AutoArrange'. It's great that it makes everything look so neat, however it's a bit of a problem that generation hierarchy is not easily identifiably at first sight. What I mean is that, for example, cousins of mine appear above (on the tree, visually, not hierarchically) some grand-parents of mine. Perhaps this is inevitable, especially for trees that get too extended horizontally, however I was wondering whether there can be a solution to it.
Again, congratulations to Dan for what he has done, and hopefully for what he will still do.
Stefanos Cyprus
Edited: Sunday, October 8, 2006 by
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Administrators Moderators Customers Gamma FamilyTrees.GenoPro.com Translator GenoPro version: 3.1.0.1
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Since I have more than 7000 individuals, I get an ugly diagram everytime someone has more than 2 wives/husbands. Luckily there are not so many of them  Is this problem known by you ? This is a known inssue and cannot be fixed without a complete rewrite of code. GenoPro does detect the multiple wives/husbands however it does not know where to place them. The rules to place the husband to the left and the wife to the right creates an ugly diagram in such situations because after having placed the parents, the children must be placed underneath, and the ancestors above. If each husband and wife has children and ancestors, you can have an idea of the problem involved. This will be changed for version 2.1.
Edited: Sunday, January 15, 2006 by
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Customers FamilyTrees.GenoPro.com GenoPro version: 2.5.4.1
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GenoProSupport (8/18/2005)
Since I have more than 7000 individuals, I get an ugly diagram everytime someone has more than 2 wives/husbands. Luckily there are not so many of them  Is this problem known by you ? This will be changed for version 2.1. I've also written you about this problem in the past; maybe you'll remove here (under suggestions) all my unsolved problems ... About this very one, I've suggested - as a beginning of the solution - to try and increase the "2 spouses" restriction to 3 ones.
additional email: finkea@mail.biu.ac.il ARIGATO-GOZAIMASU(jp) DAKUJEM(sk) DANKE(d) EVHARISTIES(gr) GRAZIE(it) MERCI(f) MULTUMESC(ro) SPASIVA(ru) THANKS(gb) THODAH(il)
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Alfi (4/26/2007) About this very one, I've suggested - as a beginning of the solution - to try and increase the "2 spouses" restriction to 3 ones.I agree, however this is almost impossible. You should see the code underneath. It would be like asking to extend the existing telephone system from a one-to-one communication to a many-to-many conference call. The amount of work is far more than re-compiling the code by increasing the value from "2 spouses" to "3 spouses".
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GenoProSupport (8/18/2005) This will be changed for version 2.1.One more example to see and understand how ugly looks the autoarrange for big trees.
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Alfi (2/18/2007) One more example to see and understand how ugly looks the autoarrange for big trees.I have seen a lot worse.
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Customers FamilyTrees.GenoPro.com GenoPro version: 3.1.0.1
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Hello,I understand that the Autoarrange cannot handle trees with complex structure but I have a suggestion for minor improvement of it without lots of hard solutions. The main idea is: when Autoarrange has to arrange the complex tree it has rules that lead to the mess when these rules cannot be fulfilled but we can define a variant rule that IF there is a complex tree which will definitely cause a problem - what we can check before beginning of autoarranging - THEN it has only to implement minor variant of autoarrange. Here are some thoughts of what can be a variant: 1. I am very annoyed of arranging when I do Autoarrange and everything is good except one small part which autoarrange doesn't know where to put - Decision is: to separate this problem part and put its last (youngest) individual to the equal line (level) of equal individual from another part (wife which family causes the problem - to the level of her husband; brothers/sisters - to leave place below all the existing brothers/sisters to have an ability to place there a family of one brother/sister which cause a problem. 2. Next thought is almost the same as first one - I only would like to have Autoarrange when it Does its work correctly to put families of two last spouses on the same level (now husband ancestors are above him and wife's are above husbands at the top right position). 3. One more thought to define an empty place around of the problem part to give a user ability to handle it manually without handling already arranged part of the tree. 4. The most complex task is what to do with the crossing lines and multiple marriages: I think the best way for you to create Rules how Your program is going to handle division by GenoMaps and then taking these Rules into account propose to the user which parts of the big tree (having problems) can be (by his order) splitted to other genomaps with all the individuals that linked to the first individual (which can be assigned in these rules) of the problematic part. These rules can be created and discussed over in this forum before implementing. More than that you can make variants for different cases - for example one option handling is In the "problem marriage" female should be moved to another GenoMap with all the related people or for different nations it is correct to move male... Then you have described in examples how to handle manually complex cases - but almost all of this can be described in Rules. And finally, these Rules can use during Autoarrange not all together but by the Blocks with subrules with choice (what to use and something to skip). The best way of doing something - not to say all the time that Autoarrange cannot do something but afford an ability for the customers to have at least option of it - all the same it is better way to handle manually only part of big tree then positioning of the large tree completely manually all the time. So, next thought is p.s. If you want to begin discussion of the Rules you can move this my post as a beginning, I am ready for discussion and I think all the users also.
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Mantreat (7/29/2008) p.s. If you want to begin discussion of the Rules you can move this my post as a beginning, I am ready for discussion and I think all the users also.You are welcome to start a new topic for "AutoArrange rules"
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