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Posted Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Post #5642
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Thanks for all these nice improvements.

Have tried something today, which should not have happened. If a gno file is transferred from an English Windows version and the input was done with IME to a japanese Windows version, the first thing after opening this file should be to set the proper font, otherwise a crash may happen. Although the display shows proper japanese characters initially, still it is important to do so. Realized this when trying to make a Meta file without setting the font to a font which is available on that computer. The program crashed!
The same should be done in both directions.

Should be mentioned in the manual for this program.
Posted Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Post #5641
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GenoPro Beta12f now offers the option to display the auto drop down list above the input field, or to turn it off completely.



Edited: Sunday, September 18, 2005 by GenoProSupport
Posted Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Post #5640
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The IME is built-in and available to every Windows program. I need to investigate why GenoPro does not receive IME messages. I am not sure if this is a Windows95/98/ME issue or an issue on the NT/200/XP platform. I have seen the IME at work, but I never used it personally. I only know English and French.
Posted Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Post #5639
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Have tried the utility program of Ron to convert into GEDCOM format and was surprised that when the program starts the IME function is activated. This means I could enter japanese text into the field, where the xml file should be placed for converting purpose.

Was this on purpose or by accident done by Ron?
Posted Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Post #5638
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Could not get a drop-down list above the combo as described yet. Will try again.

I am not surprised. For some strange reasons, I cannot get the keyboard messages WM_IME_CHAR nor the WM_UNICHAR. Those messages are best for Unicode handling, and can notify GenoPro the presence of the Input Method Editor (IME) - the window to display symbols.

I have another solution. I will work on it this week.


Edited: Sunday, September 18, 2005 by GenoProSupport
Posted Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Post #5637
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Looks great!

Even better on my PC (engl. Windows ME) than on a jap. version (Windows 98 ).

Could not get a drop-down list above the combo as described yet. Will try again.
Posted Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Post #5636
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Hi maru-san,
I just made an update, Beta12e, with a display option to draw text vertically, from top-to-bottom. This option will be handy to display Japanese text from top-to-bottom.

I also included code to detect the presence of a window to enter special characters. If GenoPro detects this window, the drop-down is displayed
above the the combo rather than below. This is not the final feature, however I want to tell me if you get a "drop list" appearing on top rather than at the bottom. I cannot test this myself because I don't enter Japanese text.
Posted Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Post #5635
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By the way, are you annoyed by the auto-drop down list when you type text?

Yes!

Have tried to input japanese characters under Windows 98 (JP). The result is as follows:

when I input english names, the drop-down list appears the same way it does when using english Windows version. When I switch to input of japanese characters, no drop-down list appears even when typing the same japanese character as for another individual. The "drop-downlist of the japanese characters" comes only when I click "space" in order to find the proper japanese character.

Will this help you?
Posted Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Post #5634
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If you are interested in how it looks I can send you the screen print.

I would like to see how it looks. Thanks.

By the way, are you annoyed by the auto-drop down list when you type text? Some of the asian text input have their own drop down list when typing, and the GenoPro drop down list may interfere. I am thinking of adding an option and/or automatically detecting this.
Posted Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Post #5633
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Dan,

have tried Twinbridge (trial version) on Windows ME.

The fonts are then listed when activated under "Properties > fonts" under the column where you have all the other Western/US fonts. The fonts used are the "True Type" fonts. Selecting this fonts will display my name in Japanese characters, typed using Twinbridge, the display in the dialog box shows both Japanese names (one typed using Global IME via WORD, the other Twinbridge properly, however in the display of this individual only the one using Twinbridge is shown.

If someone of your friends has typed Japanese/Chinese directly into Genopro, they may have used the japanese/chinese Windows version or used a system like Twinbridge or Asian Suite.
If you are interested in how it looks I can send you the screen print. So whether it will be possible to type directly into Genopro most probably depends also on whether Windows ME and Global IME will have this support from Microsoft when using the english version of Windows.

The idea to align characters the way it is done in Excel will solve however the problem I have asked for in the beginning, Thanks!!


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