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Yehudad

Posted Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - Post #6893

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I'm using English as my family tree language because I have relatives all over the world. My language is Hebrew.
I dont want to have two family trees to maintain (English + Hebrew).

So

I thought of an idea.
The dictionary.xml file lets me generate a report in Hebrew for my tree. The problem is that the name (first + last) will be in English.

I thought of using the dictionary.xml to translate names from English to Hebrew. I tried it and it worked.
However - the list of names and surnamesis very long.

my question:
I want to create a new xml file that will hold all the names and surnames I want.
Is there any methods within the Report generator that I can use to retrieve information from the xml file (like the LanguageDictionary method)?

Edited: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 by GenoProSupport

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Yehudad

Posted Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - Post #7969

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1. Create a function ToBe2Ind and use it whenever necessary. Send me the code and I will update it to the master template, so next update everyone benefits from your change.

No problem. I meant to write this function anyway. I'm going to write it to be used on both posibilities.

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2. You are welcome to translate the Dictionary.xml into Hebrew. This work will be preserved. Then, when the automatic translation of names is available, you won't have much to do. The automatic name translation will use a different XML file than Dictionary.xml.

Are you refering to the NameDictionary.xml or to another XML file?

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Posted Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - Post #7971

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[quote]Are you refering to the NameDictionary.xml or to another XML file?

File NameDictionary.xml. I forgot I had already given a name in the following code snipet:

Set oNameDictionary = Util.NewNameDictionary
oNameDictionary.BuildLookupTable "NameDictionary.xml", "EN", "JA"
strName = oNameDictionary("Daniel") ' Should return the Japanese name

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Translating names from one language to another By Yehudad ( Wednesday, August 17, 2005 )

The property [c]i.father[/c] does return another individual. You can... By GenoProSupport ( Tuesday, August 30, 2005 )

[quote][b]GenoProSupport[/b][hr]The property [c]i.father[/c] does... By Yehudad ( Tuesday, August 30, 2005 )

Maybe you have an older version of Dictionary.xml. Try generating it... By GenoProSupport ( Wednesday, August 31, 2005 )

[quote][b]GenoProSupport[/b][hr]Maybe you have an older version of... By Yehudad ( Wednesday, August 31, 2005 )

Sometimes [c]ind2[/c] is set to [c]Nothing[/c], and there is... By GenoProSupport ( Wednesday, August 31, 2005 )

Problem Solved! Thanks. By Yehudad ( Wednesday, August 31, 2005 )

A few problema I found while translating the current report into... By Yehudad ( Monday, August 29, 2005 )

[quote][b]Yehudad[/b][hr]The Report Generator adds a space after the... By GenoProSupport ( Tuesday, August 30, 2005 )

[quote][b]GenoProSupport (8/30/2005)[/b]Remove the space between... By Yehudad ( Tuesday, August 30, 2005 )

Here is my suggestion: 1. Create a function [c]ToBe2Ind[/c] and use it... By GenoProSupport ( Tuesday, August 30, 2005 )

[quote][b]GenoProSupport[/b][hr]Create a function [c]ToBe2Ind[/c] and... By Yehudad ( Tuesday, August 30, 2005 )

[quote][b]GenoProSupport[/b][hr]1. Create a function [c]ToBe2Ind[/c]... By Yehudad ( Tuesday, August 30, 2005 )

[quote][b]Yehudad[/b][hr][quote]Are you refering to the... By GenoProSupport ( Tuesday, August 30, 2005 )

You are correct, each skin will support multiple language too. With... By GenoProSupport ( Monday, August 29, 2005 )

[quote][b]GenoProSupport (8/29/2005)[/b][hr]You are correct, each skin... By Yehudad ( Monday, August 29, 2005 )

Great job on the new Beta 14. Is this feature in Beta 14, or it will... By Yehudad ( Monday, August 29, 2005 )

[quote][b]Yehudad (8/29/2005)[/b][hr]Is this feature in Beta 14, or it... By GenoProSupport ( Monday, August 29, 2005 )

[quote][b]GenoProSupport (8/29/2005)[/b][hr]It will take several weeks... By Yehudad ( Monday, August 29, 2005 )

I was successful opening the page http://www.genealogi.se/namneng.htm... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]An introduction in english to why people are known by such... By V.L.o ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

One source for "translating" or "generalizing" names is the swedish... By Anna ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]There will be two lists: 1) The Master List from GenoPro.com... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]I thought that each user can have his own list based on the... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

I will try to explain it to you.
It is a little complecated. By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

This thread in it's full length attracted me. Excuse me if I don't... By 30909 ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

I thought that each user can have his own list based on the people on... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

The idea is GenoPro can generate a list of unique names, and submit... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]The name translation will be done using a combination of... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

The name translation will be done using a combination of GenoPro and... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]So, what kind of those features mentioned in this discussion... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

So, what kind of those features mentioned in this discussion will be... By beraha ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]Eventually yes. I will make sure the download is easy for the... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]Do you mean that there will be two namedictionary? the one you... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]The idea is to have a large dictionary of names available for... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]This will be an addition to the build-in tool in GenoPro or it... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]In fact, I plan to make the NameDictionary.xml public on the... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Yes, indeed. The goal is to never duplicate code or data. This is... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

This is what so great in Dan's idea. You only have to create... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

:D Whit each new feature, I like this program even more...
By V.L.o ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]I would love to have the report generator capable to generate a... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Probably. I would love to have the report generator capable to... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

So this is the plan for GenoPro v. 3? :D By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

I agree. I think supporting VBScript and JavaScript is a step in the... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

What I think will be great is for the report generator to be able to... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]I do think that you are doing a great job in making GenoPro a... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Thanks.
I did found those methods and removed them with the new... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Great, this is what I wanted to read. I am currently working on a... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]My question is the following: Is the use of NameDictionary.xml... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]The names I entered to the NameDictionary.xml were translated... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]I made an update at... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote][quote]I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean that GenoPro... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Oh, my mistake. The link should be... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote][b]V.L.o[/b][hr]Sorry but there is no link to 13 j ![/quote]... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Sorry but there is no link to 13 j !

altough i tried and... By V.L.o ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean that GenoPro will... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]Yes, you have to enter the names manually in the file... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Yes, you have to enter the names manually in the file... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

I keep getting this message, while trying to generate report using... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Thanks for your feedback. The Google translate does sometimes produce... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Dan,

just checked the names dictionary and found the name... By maru-san ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

I made an update at... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Well according to this solution you wont need this method anymore. You... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Simplicity is imperative, noting that most users are not computer... By ezrab ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Can't wait.
Looking forward to it :P By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Next Beta By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Dan,
When do you think this feature will be added to GenoPro? By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote] Question: Is this translation only for names, or it is also... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]What do you mean by "original form of Name"?[/quote] I was... By V.L.o ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

The "Table" of translated names would appear in the Table Layout. As... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]Bottom line: the translation has to be specific to... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]GenoPro can populate the table with all unique names (first... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]Would you like the translation only in the report, or also in... By rdn ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Pay attention:)(for Post #6912) There's still a difference between... By Alfi ( Friday, September 9, 2005 )

In which Beta version this translating names tools will be available? By Yehudad ( Tuesday, November 8, 2005 )

[quote][b]Yehudad (11/9/2005)[/b][hr]In which Beta version this... By GenoProSupport ( Wednesday, November 9, 2005 )

[quote][b]GenoProSupport My brother Jean Claude will join GenoPro... By beraha ( Friday, February 16, 2007 )

The name project has been put on hold since we had created... By jcmorin ( Friday, February 16, 2007 )

[quote][b]JcMorin (2/16/2007)[/b][hr]Make sure you participate in... By Yehudad ( Saturday, February 17, 2007 )

Well I am glad this solution would work for you. The more "votes" I... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]My question is: Would that solution work for you? It is almost... By rdn ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Pushing is good. GenoPro is about pushing the limits of genealogy... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Would it be pushing if the default 2nd language name would be some... By V.L.o ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

GenoPro can populate the table with all unique names (first name,... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]GenoPro could have a small table in the "Tools" menu for name... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

It seams as a much better idea!
As it happens, most computer... By V.L.o ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

GenoPro could have a small table in the "Tools" menu for name... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote][b]V.L.o (8/18/2005)[/b][hr]Wouldn't it be complicated for user... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Wouldn't it be complicated for user to have data stored in two... By V.L.o ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]Should GenoPro store those translated names in the .gno or .xml... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

Should GenoPro store those translated names in the .gno or .xml file?... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote]The LanguageDictionary was designed to be very performant, so... By Yehudad ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

What you requested is not a problem at all. In fact, all the tags in... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

My suggestion is when you open the dialog box for making your report,... By maru-san ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

[quote][b]maru-san (8/18/2005)[/b][hr]So the request goes for a very... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

I started all my trees in english, but then I thought about all my... By maru-san ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

At the moment, the LanguageDictionary object has only two methods:... By GenoProSupport ( Thursday, August 18, 2005 )

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