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To view the genomap in your browser you MUST have 1) GenoPro installed and 2) use Internet Explorer (isn't it so?).
This is true. There is littke I can do to improve the situation. Viewing a .gno document is similar to viewing a .pdf document; you need GenoPro the same as you need Acrobat Reader to view the pdf file. Any browser supporting ActiveX can host GenoPro... so far, only IE does it :? .
But like Yehudad said it's a good thing we can have all different kind of reports by the excellent new report generator. If you have plenty of information I'm sure it is best for you to use another kind of report. For my and anyone else's needs the kind of tree I drew might be the best presentation.
Soon the report generator will be capable to return images (pictures) of a GenoMap. Therefore, you will be capable to create more sophisticated reports.
Yes. Downloading and installing a skin will be a one-click process.
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Thanks for your comments.
Maru-san, the future function of having pics in genomaps is a good alternative indeed. But like you said it's not as fancy though it is clearer as it indicates all the spouses and stuff... However there's one MAJOR downside to it: To view the genomap in your browser you MUST have 1) GenoPro installed and 2) use Internet Explorer (isn't it so?). My relatives do not have GenoPro to view the genogram.
The best way to present the family tree to relatives of mine is to have visual presentation of the tree with easy navigating system and a lot of pictures. As I said earlier, for the most of the people I have only the most basic information, not their whole biography. Individual pages with a few lines of text at the top of the page look boring.
But like Yehudad said it's a good thing we can have all different kind of reports by the excellent new report generator. If you have plenty of information I'm sure it is best for you to use another kind of report. For my and anyone else's needs the kind of tree I drew might be the best presentation. To my understanding Dan is going to have a databank of some kind for skin downloading at GenoPro website?
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I think we should keep the individual page as what it was intended to be: a page for the individual.[/quote]
I agree with maru-san. The individual page is the individual page. We have the family group sheet for the family. If we want we can improve the way we display the family there. The link to the GenoMap is also a good way to see the relationship within the family.
However, the great advantage of the new report generator is that anyone can create his own skin, so if this is the way someone likes to see his family tree - so be it.
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Nice proposal by rjn, however I wonder whether this function is not there already. The tree logo on each individual page could link to the ID in the genomap and zoomed-in, so you can see the relation to parents and grand parents from there and since it is intended to have pictures in the genomaps as well, you will have the display as outlined in your draft, except for the background. It may not be as fancy, but it is an altenative. Another way could be to insert here a SVG display, which also gives the possibility to display pictures, relations and data.
I think we should keep the individual page as what it was intended to be: a page for the individual.
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Here's quite a rough image of what I'm was talking about (I'm not very good at drawing with computer but you'll get the idea ... just imagine the leaves and branches drawn nicely and everything perfectly aligned in real proportions.. oh and the two braches from parents smoothly intertwining together).
The point is that each individual (selected individual) has a page focused on him/her(*). You can see the basic information (I put only few for the example) on the right. On the left there's his/her current spouse (Previous spouses appear on their children's as fathers/mothers but unfortunately I couldn't figure out yet a way how to display previous spouses without any children). All the selected individual's children are displayed whether they're related to the spouse or not*. That's why I hid the possible branch from the spouse with leaves.
Selected individual's children are displayed higher in the tree as leaves. Leaves hide any upgoing branches.
Selected individual's parents are displayed lower in tree. Leaves hide other possible branches.
What about siblings? You can think the tree is 3-dimensional. They are behind the selected invidual but can be accessed via their parents.
Now by selecting another individual from the tree by clicking his portrait will he/she be in the focused center and his spouse, children and parents be displayed. The background graphics alter when individual
1) has no children entered --> no upgoing branch
2) has no parents entered --> tree becomes thicker and hits the ground
The picture below is an example of situation where there are both parents and children.
http://www.nic.fi/~rnuotio/doetree.jpg
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Hello there.
This forum (phpBB) lack features, including the notification of a new post. In the past, many posts have been replied several months later because I never saw it when freshly posted. The link "view posts since last visit" does not always work if someone is posting a message at the same time I am editing a message. The good news is there is a new support forum at http://support.genopro.com. This forum has many features, including the ability to post images. I purchased a full developer license to have the source code, so I can make improvements in the future. I am waiting for the final version 4.0 before migrating every post to http://support.genopro.com.
Back to the modifications you made. I downloaded your file Individual.htm and generated a report. Your modifications do add extra information to the individual pedigree, however the presentation looks strange. I am not sure if there is a better way of displaying the parents and grandparents in a table format. In the future, GenoPro will have a mechanism to create a gif/png/bmp/metafile of a selection of the family tree. The report generator will then be capable to include graphical fragments of the family tree.
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Hi there,
I have taken a look into your addition before and I like the idea of having links to mother and father on individuals page. It is at least a good alternative. Having grandparents there as well is a possibility, but for my point of view navigating one generation at a time is quite enough. If grandparents are included, why not to have grandchildren then? 5 generations. This would make the page too "heavy".
I have proposed making a more visual, picture-navigated report skin earlier (see thread Topic6751-60-1.aspx) with the following layout (all in pictures with just a name below):
father mother
current selected infoscreen
spouse individual for selected
individual
... child child child child ...
OR the other way around, so that children would be "the leaves of the tree" and ancestors "the roots of the tree". There could actually be a tree drawn in the background. My brother is not only a bit of a programmer but also a damn good visual artist and web designer so I think with some time we can get something out of it.
This kind of report would please the eye and would be easy to navigate step by step. Downside would be that if there's a lot of fancy information on individual, it couldn't possibly fit neatly in the infoscreen but at least in my case I mostly have just the basic information of everyone: names, birth, death, contact.
This suggestion never got that much attention either. Still I find it a good alternative to Full Narrative, which is awesome especially when there's a lot of information but maybe a bit artificial when there's nothing but a name and birth date available.
So maybe I / you / we should make a picture of how it SHOULD look like to make it more interesting amongst the developers. Please don't be mad at me if I say that your tables don't look very nice the way they are right now although the point you are making is good indeed.
I'll see if I can sketch a sample in jpg format to show how I visualize it. This forum supports pictures, doesn't it?
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Hi
I didn't get any response to the tamplate I realesed which includs a new table with links to each individual parents & granparenrts.
So, Should I understand that you did'nt like it?
I thought it was a very nice addition to the original tamplate.
I worked about this addition real hard. So, I would realy like to know what do you think about it.
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Hi
During the last weekend, I've made some modification in the file: "Individual.htm" on the Skin Folder.
I added a table where you can link to each individual parents and grandparents.
I think it's easier to browse among the family member that way.
You can download the file at: http://beraha.atspace.com/beta/Individual.zip
Uncompress the file and replace it with the original Individual.htm in your skin folder.
Since I am not a programmer, I am sorry if the code is not so professional written. It took me hours just to understand the original code, and to study the basics of VBscript.
But - I think the result is very nice.
I hope you will like it, and I hope that Dan will integrate the addition code in his program
let me know what do you think about it.
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