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Posted Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - Post #7978
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Not all languages have the same phrase structure.  I decided to create a topic dedicated to this issue.

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rjn (8/18/2005)
GenoProSupport (8/18/2005)
Every problem can be solved. This is my philosiphy anyway. Send me several samples Finnish translation in the context of VBScript and I will draft a routine to handle this.


That's great! I didn't quite understand what you meant by sending samples in the context of vbscript... I'm having yet difficulties with that language so I'm not sure if I can do that, whatever it was :?
Still I can elaborate and send you more specific information and examples of suffixes in possessive structures that I can think of:

Basic possessive structure in Finnish: add suffix "n"
Examples:
Rami -> Ramin
Toni -> Tonin
Risto -> Riston
Marika -> Marikan
etc.

Exceptions:
1) When the last letter is a CONSONANT (except s), add suffix "in"
Examples:
Tom -> Tomin
Aslak -> Aslakin
Jasmin -> Jasminin
Mikael -> Mikaelin
Abraham -> Abrahamin
Elisabet -> Elisabetin

2) But if the last letter is consonant s, it is left out and replaced by suffix "ksen":
Examples:
Armas -> Armaksen
Iiris -> Iiriksen
Joonas -> Joonaksen
Markus -> Markuksen
Johannes -> Johanneksen

3) If there is double consonant kk, pp or tt just before ending vowel, it is reduced to single consonant k,p or t:
Examples:
Eppu -> Epun
Pekka -> Pekan
Titta -> Titan
Seppo -> Sepon
Tuukka -> Tuukan
Riitta -> Riitan
Jukkapekka -> Jukkapekan
Markku-Pekka -> Markku-Pekan
(in last two cases you see that only latter kk is affected)

4) Rare case: If name ends "tar", an extra t is added and suffix is "en":
Examples:
Ilmatar -> Ilmattaren
Suometar -> Suomettaren

I am thinking of defining some rules for possessive names.  GenoPro would lookup each rule, and if one matches the pattern, the processing would stop. In Finnish the rules sould look like this:

<PossessiveRules>
  <Rule EndWith="s" ReplaceWith="ksen" />
  <Rule EndWith="tar" ReplaceWith="ttarten" />
  <Rule EndWith="kk?" ReplaceWith="k?" />
  <Rule EndWith="pp?" ReplaceWith="p?" />
  <Rule EndWith="tt?" ReplaceWith="t?" />
  <Rule Append="n" />
</PossessiveRules>

In English, the rules would look like this:

<PossessiveRules>
  <Rule EndWith="s" Append="'" />
  <Rule EndWith="'" />  <!-- Do nothing.  The processing will stop at this rule if the noun ends with the apostrophe -->
  <Rule Append="'s" />  <!-- Otherwise, append the "'s" to the noun -->
</PossessiveRules>


Edited: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 by GenoProSupport

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Forum Post Translation of Phrases in Dictionary.xml By GenoProSupport ( Tuesday, August 30, 2005 )
Forum Post [quote][b]GenoProSupport (8/30/2005)[/b][hr] I am thinking of defining... By genome ( Wednesday, November 15, 2006 )
Forum Post [quote][b]Ron (11/15/2006)[/b][hr] The next skin update has an interim... By Yehudad ( Wednesday, November 15, 2006 )
Forum Post Sorry, the Dictionary will have the following by way of explanation.... By genome ( Wednesday, November 15, 2006 )
Forum Post Of course... :) ;) Thanks for all of your efforts to the Report... By Yehudad ( Wednesday, November 15, 2006 )
Forum Post As I understand all the rules should be in the dictionary.xml file and... By Yehudad ( Wednesday, September 7, 2005 )
Forum Post [quote][b]Yehudad (9/8/2005)[/b][hr]As I understand all the rules... By GenoProSupport ( Wednesday, September 7, 2005 )
Forum Post [quote][b]GenoProSupport[/b][hr]I think this proposed solution would... By Yehudad ( Thursday, September 8, 2005 )
Forum Post If possible the possesive pronoun should not be written in the file... By maru-san ( Wednesday, September 7, 2005 )
Forum Post You raise a good point. The possive rules must support gender too.... By GenoProSupport ( Wednesday, September 7, 2005 )
Forum Post In Hebrew there is no EndWith. We can append the word "של" - "SHEL"... By Yehudad ( Wednesday, September 7, 2005 )
Forum Post Before dealing with possessive rules, it should be given a thought... By Alfi ( Wednesday, September 7, 2005 )
Forum Post I think we should have [b]two topcis[/b] for the linguistic rules.... By GenoProSupport ( Wednesday, September 7, 2005 )
Forum Post Something like thet could help me too! By V.L.o ( Wednesday, September 7, 2005 )
Forum Post I think - instead of: [code]<Rule Append="n">[/code] should... By Alfi ( Wednesday, September 7, 2005 )
Forum Post I think this is a great idea. Having such rules they could easily be... By Rjn ( Wednesday, August 31, 2005 )
Forum Post Also, having a [url=FindPost8009.aspx]pattern in a rule[/url] using a... By GenoProSupport ( Wednesday, August 31, 2005 )


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