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Posted Monday, September 19, 2005 - Post #8483
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Also on the subject of printing out for a book, how do I print out all the photos of each person, at the moment on the report it only prints one. apart from the photos of other close relatives

Edited: Monday, September 19, 2005 by GenoProSupport
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Posted Thursday, September 22, 2005 - Post #8570
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honyk (9/22/2005)
I think the best book (e-book) with minimal effort could be HTML Help. ...

How you want to send the HTML Help e-book (probably on CD) to your old grandmother that she can read it? Many old people do not have computer and 80% of other prefer to have something printed.

Do you want hand over work you have done (by building your family tree) to your grandson (who will be born in 2050)? Then forget about HTML! How he will read an old, broken CD-ROM ?

HTML has an advantage - it is small, easy to navigate and it is possible to put it on web.

Posted Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - Post #8683
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honyk (9/22/2005)
I think the best book (e-book) with minimal effort could be HTML Help. ...

How you want to send the HTML Help e-book (probably on CD) to your old grandmother that she can read it? Many old people do not have computer and 80% of other prefer to have something printed.

Do you want hand over work you have done (by building your family tree) to your grandson (who will be born in 2050)? Then forget about HTML! How he will read an old, broken CD-ROM ?

HTML has an advantage - it is small, easy to navigate and it is possible to put it on web.

If I look at the above quote, noting is good enough but ordinary paper.... But guess what, even ordinary paper is not good enough. That old grandma, is getting problems with her eyes and requires font size 20 to read text. So you're going to print new versions every week in multiple font sizes (since your nephew really prefers the arial-10 font), as long as you're making changes to the tree. Also, the hard copy paper is wearing out, and likely after your grandson is born, the paper is unreadably, and certainly out of date.

I agree that being able to print is nice, but it isn't the holy grail that everybody is looking for. I typically change my tree at least 3 times a week, with, for example 30 additional persons every week for the last 4 weeks (I now have 1600 persons in my tree). It is just unthinkable that I would be printing this for the approx. 40 family members that are looking at my website very regularly.

my $ 0.02,

Ronald

Edited: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 by rboshuis

Posted Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - Post #8689
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To Ronald: you are right - printout isn't "The Best" solution (how to print out let say 1000+ reports from individuals? How to navigate through?...).  I think that there isn't only one and universal best solution. HTML is good for navigating, Internet sharing but when I need to go to some relatives and discuss part of my tree, when I need to leave them something, when I want to send by post part of the genealogy to the people I personally do not know, when i want to keep the work I do for future generations - in such cases printout is still the best - and the only solution I know.

That's also the reason why most of the popular genealogy softwares have many kind of printable reports (usually with many options how to generate them) included.

I'd like to know how other people work with the database (tree) "on the way"? Do you visit your relatives? How do you collect the informations? Maybe I just missed something.

And I ask myself another question: Ronald said that his relatives regularly look regularly at his pages with the genealogy. That's nice and I wish my relatives will do the same. On the other hand - do you think they will do the same within next 30,40 or 60 years? Some of my ancestors I have in my tree are from 1650 and I want that at least part of my work will last (will be accessible) many years  therefore I need to redistribute it to many places (relatives) the way that our descendants will be able to read it in 2100, 2200..... (hopefully).
I do not believe that HTML is good for it.

GenoPro is a good tool, it is going to be even better and it will be able to generate printable report too (I hope that at least as many reports as the other genealogy programs). The only think I want to do is to emphasize importance of the NICE printable reports.

Posted Friday, September 30, 2005 - Post #8710
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imcon (9/28/2005)
I'd like to know how other people work with the database (tree) "on the way"? Do you visit your relatives? How do you collect the informations? Maybe I just missed something.

If I visit my relatives, I typically take my laptop with me. If need be, I'll create a screenshot of the tree and zip the html report pages together and send that to the person who I want to check it or add new info. (Especially since I am using around 60 different Genomaps, one for each one of the different last names.)

However, I find it easiest to directly input all the results from my visits into Genopro, since it allows me to do additional checks. Often I found out that nephews were of slightly different parents that the interviewed people said, which I can then immediately check with them.

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And I ask myself another question: Ronald said that his relatives regularly look regularly at his pages with the genealogy. That's nice and I wish my relatives will do the same. On the other hand - do you think they will do the same within next 30,40 or 60 years? Some of my ancestors I have in my tree are from 1650 and I want that at least part of my work will last (will be accessible) many years  therefore I need to redistribute it to many places (relatives) the way that our descendants will be able to read it in 2100, 2200..... (hopefully).

My ancestry tree now goes back to somewhere around 1550.. The way I save the data is by doing the following...

- provide a copy of all images, html, GENCOM and genopro .GNO and .XML file on a DVD (it doesn't fit a CD anymore) and provide that once to my relatives. It will happen this year during our family reunion. Besides that, I have a password protected website which has the whole tree including low-res fotos etc on it, so people can check the tree themselves. This allows them to quickly check whether I put newly provided data properly in the tree.

- Once I am happy enough with the whole thing, I'll start looking at an HTML2PDF converter (I know they exist) and will probably move everything into an PDF every now and then. However, even then, I won't have everything I have in the PDF. since that would also be an PDF file which doesn't fit a CD....(Most photos maps etc I have are around 600 KB jpegs, and I have a lot of those :-) )

rgds,

Ronald


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Forum Post Making a Book using the Report Generator By doakey ( Monday, September 19, 2005 )
Forum Post Dan, I am 100% in agreement with you about the quality of the report... By IainTait ( Wednesday, September 28, 2005 )
Forum Post [quote][b]iaintait[/b][hr]The idea of a graphical layout tree with... By Yehudad ( Thursday, September 29, 2005 )
Forum Post [quote][b]Yehudad (9/29/2005)[/b][hr]However I think we all can help... By IainTait ( Thursday, September 29, 2005 )
Forum Post [quote][b]iaintait[/b][hr]Your idea of a descendant report is a good... By Yehudad ( Thursday, September 29, 2005 )
Forum Post [quote][b]Yehudad (9/29/2005)[/b][hr]What Ron did was outstanding. He... By IainTait ( Thursday, September 29, 2005 )
Forum Post Before I discovered GenoPro, I used to use Legacy for my archives and... By IainTait ( Wednesday, September 28, 2005 )
Forum Post I agree reports are important, and this is why I spent significant... By GenoProSupport ( Wednesday, September 28, 2005 )
Forum Post There is nothong like a printed report (esp. for older people), but... By V.L.o ( Tuesday, September 27, 2005 )
Forum Post The ability to generate a report on an individual is still in v.1.9x.... By appleshaw ( Wednesday, September 28, 2005 )
Forum Post Other idea: GenoPro XML -> XSLT -> output.fo (XSL-FO) ->... By honyk ( Thursday, September 22, 2005 )
Forum Post I think the best book (e-book) with minimal effort could be HTML Help.... By honyk ( Thursday, September 22, 2005 )
Forum Post [quote][b]honyk (9/22/2005)[/b][hr]I think the best book (e-book) with... By imcon ( Thursday, September 22, 2005 )
Forum Post [quote][b]imcon (9/22/2005)[/b][hr][quote][b]honyk... By rboshuis ( Tuesday, September 27, 2005 )
Forum Post To Ronald: you are right - printout isn't "The Best" solution (how to... By imcon ( Wednesday, September 28, 2005 )
Forum Post [quote][b]imcon (9/28/2005)[/b][hr]I'd like to know how other people... By rboshuis ( Friday, September 30, 2005 )
Forum Post I have to agree with Yehudad (see the topic... By imcon ( Monday, September 19, 2005 )
Forum Post Dan said in the past that GenoPro will be able in the future to... By Yehudad ( Monday, September 19, 2005 )
Forum Post This is correct. The report generator has been designed to handle... By GenoProSupport ( Monday, September 19, 2005 )
Forum Post [quote][b]GenoProSupport[/b][hr]I spent more time with the HTML... By Yehudad ( Monday, September 19, 2005 )
Forum Post The requested function is not included yet, but is on the wishlist of... By maru-san ( Monday, September 19, 2005 )


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