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Posted Monday, June 5, 2006 - Post #11354
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Instead of the actual display format such as:

11 5765 מאי

the same should appear (in fact) as:

5765 מאי

11

I know that the cause of the problem is purely technical (because of the Windows) but is should be solved. For the same reason, I couldn't write 11 both on the right side of the Hebrew word "May" and on the same line.

The Hebrew (English) format is correct.


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Posted Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - Post #11368
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Alfi (6/6/2006)
Instead of the actual display format such as:

11 5765 מאי

the same should appear (in fact) as:

5765 מאי

11

I know that the cause of the problem is purely technical (because of the Windows) but is should be solved. For the same reason, I couldn't write 11 both on the right side of the Hebrew word "May" and on the same line.

The Hebrew (English) format is correct.

I wrote about this problem this morning. The month should be the Hebrew month and not the Gregorian one. 5765 is the Hebrew year תשסה, May or מאי is a Gregorian month...

Posted Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - Post #11404
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Beta 16b displays the date 6 Jun 2006 as follows:

5766 סיוון 11

This is the best GenoPro can do because it is Windows who changes the text direction.

Edited: Tuesday, June 6, 2006 by GenoProSupport

Posted Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - Post #11405
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Beta 16b displays the date 6 Jun 2006 as follows:

5766 סיוון 11

This is the best GenoPro can do because it is Windows who changes the text direction.

Is the name of the month in Hebrew a translation of GenoPro or it is Windows in origin?

If it is GenoPro then I suggest translating the numbers as well. This way all of the date will be in Hebrew and be read by windows from right to Left.

Posted Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - Post #11415
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One more estethical correction needed:

Instead of the Latin transcriptions Adarl and Adarll, you should use Adar(A) and Adar(B) or - at least - Adar(l) and Adar(ll).

The first recommended choice is the best.

Yehudad (6/6/2006)
If it is GenoPro then I suggest translating the numbers as well. This way all of the date will be in Hebrew and be read by windows from right to Left.

If you decide to use Hebrew transcription for numbers as well, then I've already sent you the entire algorithm of doing it Smile

  


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Edited: Tuesday, June 6, 2006 by Alfi
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Posted Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - Post #11420
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First of all, thank you Dan for the great work on this program.  Secondly, the conversion to Hebrew calendar is still off in the latest version (16c).  A simple check will explain:

Start with Julian calendar, enter a date (e.g. 9 Dec 1990)

Bug 1:  Translating to "Hebrew (English)" brings up 6 Tevet 5751, which actually should be 22 Kislev 5751.  Translation into the Hebrew Language is consistant, which brings up 5751 טבת 6, a correct translation of 6 Tevet 5751.

Bug2: Translating to the default language, with a Hebrew calendar brings up 6 אוקטובר 5751, which is 6 Oct 5751 in Hebrew

Bug 3: Bringing up Hebrew Calendar with English shows 6 Oct 5751, which has no meaning - There should be consistancy between the year and type of calendar.

Request 1: Place Calendar type to the right of the dates within parenthesis, e.g. 9 Dec, 1990 (J)  or 22 Dec 1990 (G).

Request 2: As previously requested, have an indicator for after sunset (when using non-Hebrew calendars)  Likewise, an indicator of before midnight or after midnight for Hebrew calendars.

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Posted Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - Post #11434
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I agree with rdn (Danny) in every word
Posted Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - Post #11435
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beraha (6/8/2006)
I agree with rdn (Danny) in every word

I do too, but ... I've already started this sub-subject under the "DATE CONVERTOR" topicWink

(Under this topic, I've only dealed with the visual point of view / display format(s)) 


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Edited: Wednesday, June 7, 2006 by Alfi
Posted Thursday, June 8, 2006 - Post #11449
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Okay guys, I need you to confirm the date conversion at http://familytrees.genopro.com/DateConvertCalendar.aspx.  Once this is correct, I will fix it in GenoPro.
Posted Thursday, June 8, 2006 - Post #11451
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(he-IL):(two rows)

The conversion is basically OK.

Not CORRECTION, but COMPLETION:

Taking into consideration the fact that (acc.to the Hebrew calendar) you're going to deal (at least) with the entire period of years 1-5999, here is my observation:

The Hebrew year just displayed (in Hebrew) in your example is תשס"ו which means 766. This form is used only in order to deal with any IMMEDIATE period of time, nearby the present.

In your standard form you shouldn't ignore (in any way) the "thousands".

Therefore:


766 should only mean  766 and should be written תשס"ו ,while ...
1766 should only mean 1766 and should be written א'תשס"ו ,while ...
2766 should only mean 2766 and should be written ב'תשס"ו ,while ...
3766 should only mean 3766 and should be written ג'תשס"ו ,while ...
4766 should only mean 4766 and should be written ד'תשס"ו , and while ...
5766 should only mean  5766 and should be written ה'תשס"ו

and ALSO:

Please pay attention, at my previous recommendation about using Adar(A) and Adar(B) in Latin, instead of Adarl and Adarll

GenoProSupport (6/8/2006)Once this is correct, I will fix it in GenoPro.

Before fixing it in GenoPro, please bring also a conversion example dealing with Adar(A) and Adar(B). Pay also attention (during the debugging) at the fact that Adar(B) doesn't exist under 5766.

and one more MUST here reminded:

Alfi (6/6/2006)
Each national (e.g.Hebrew) date should appear under the international one (in parallel) and NHeheT instead of it !!!

and LAST (but not least):

I can see a Hebrew transcription of the international/gregorian date, but ... there's no Latin transcription of the Hebrew date. (in your table)

     


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Edited: Thursday, June 8, 2006 by Alfi


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