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When linking to a place, it would be nice to add a title, description, some photos, and even a map.

A place could be the old family house, a church where someone got married, or the village or parish on a census.  Being able to add a description and some historic photos would be very nice.

Also, for places, it would be great if we could hyperlink to a Google map, or some other such map.  In the UK, we would use www.streetmap.co.uk.  Any hyperlink would meet the basic requirement, but use the Latitude/Longitude would be a real smart move!

Edited: Tuesday, December 5, 2006 by GenoProSupport

I change the default value in the config.xml ==> GoogleMaps="Y" and its work very good.

With decimal coordinates there is no problem. With USA address neither.

I found a trouble with degrees  because it doesn't recognize this lat: 25º 35' N ; lon 35º 15' W  (may be the especial character º, blankspaces or anything else)

Congratulations !!

Update:-

I gave it a try with the correct type of coordinates and the result was very interesting !

Edited: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 by IainTait

I had tried first with the co-ordinates I had entered as found on the sites recommended, but the places didn't show up so I removed them in my test tree with no effect; only Melbourne shows up.

Is this normal  or am I missing something ?

The Google Maps API first uses the co-ordinates installed in Genopro for each Place, in the metric form e.g. -33.123456 and 140.123456 .  If no co-ordinates are supplied then the system will try to search using a very limited geomapping function, which works ok in most of the World, except UK. Uk addresses are not currently included.  If the co-ordinates are entered via Genopro then the map will locate and display those co-ordinates.

Please note that Hobart, Tasmania is not correct for geomapping. It should be entered as Hobart,Australia or Hobart, Tasmania, Australia. The country is neceesary, not necessarily the State, except to overcome amiguities.

Poolzone  a mere cog in a revolution

Edited: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 by poolzone

He had one question, is there any way of surpressing the text box from automatically popping up?  I would think this was a purely GoogleMaps feature.

You can prevent the information bubble from appearing by removing the lines

towards the end of script.js in a custom skin.

As I only update a couple of times a year, I am always tempted to delete the old tree and upload the full new tree to avoid errors.

Last time I noticed that I couldn't just delete the tree but the home folder went with it.

My tree will pass from 1200 names to 19000 names !

Edited: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 by IainTait

Another question -I have added lots of new family branches since Easter and as I ended up with strange IDs I errased them all and created new ones.

Will this create a problem with my update as most of the IDs will have changed ?

PS. I've just been emailed by another of my collaborators who is signing up tonight to buy GenoPro. I have lost count of the number who have done this since I started mentioning your software when contacted through Genes Reunited or Ancestry.

The more the merrier

Edited: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 by IainTait

All your previous data, including IDs will be imported, as the renaming of tags only affects the report generator.  All the previous tags are support to import the data, but they are no longer exported nor supported by the report generator.

I am just waiting for some photos from a cousin before doing so.

I will need to personalize the skin for this and wonder when the last and diffinitive skin will be released, as I have done this several times now and each time a new Beta arrives I have to do it again.  Can I do it now or will there be changes to the skin in the next Beta ?

Edited: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 by IainTait

It is coming.  Ron had done almost all the changes with the new tags.  Here is a list of the modified tags.  I will post a more official post about what tags have been changed from Beta 19 to Beta 20.

• GenoMap.boundary_rect -> GenoMap.BoundaryRect
• Individual.position.boundary_rect -> Individual.position.BoundaryRect
• Individual.hyperlink_data_source -> Individual.IndividualInternalHyperlink
• Individual.FirstMiddle -> Individual.FirstAndMiddle
• Individual.FirstLast -> Individual.FirstAndLast
• Individual.Name.Full.Format -> Individual.Name.Format
• Individual.is_adopted -> Individual.IsAdopted
• Individual.pregnancy_length -> Individual.PregnancyLength
• Individual.Spouses -> Individual.Mates
• Family.Label -> Family.DisplayText
• Family.AgeAtWeddingHusband
• Family.AgeAtWeddingWife
• PedigreeLink.pedigree_link -> PedigreeLink.PedigreeLink
• EmotionalRelationship.emotional_link -> EmotionalRelationship.EmotionalLink
• EmotionalRelationship.individual1 -> EmotionalRelationship.Entity1
• EmotionalRelationship.individual2 -> EmotionalRelationship.Entity2
• EmotionalRelationship.individual1GenoMap -> EmotionalRelationship.Entity1GenoMap
• EmotionalRelationship.individual2GenoMap -> EmotionalRelationship.Entity2GenoMap
• Twin.twin_link -> Twin.TwinLink
• Shape.closed_figure -> Shape.IsClosed
• Picture.path.file_unique -> Picture.Path.FileUnique
• Picture.file_size -> Picture.FileSize
• Occupation.work_type -> Occupation.WorkType
• Occupation.Start.Date -> Occupation.DateStart
• Occupation.End.Date -> Occupation.DateEnd
• Education.Start.Date -> Education.DateStart
• Education.End.Date -> Education.DateEnd
• Contact.Start.Date -> Contact.DateStart
• Contact.End.Date -> Contact.DateEnd
• *.Dependents -> References
• *.Dependents.Count -> References.Count

• PlaceCategory
• SourceMediaType
• EmotionalRelationships (removed the underscore to all fields, such as hostile_distant).
• Added 'Jealousy' to the emotional relationships
• Added 'Commitment Ceremony' to the union type

I just made a test tree of my direct ancestors and had included some olace coordinates before generating a report after having created the new narrative report, but couldn't see any maps.

I'm obviously missing something mentioned elsewhere.

I did however discover your pedigree chart which is superb.

The idea of adding photos to the text box on the map is superb and I will be strongly tempted to use this when it is completed by our Guru Ron.

Obviously I would ask for a little help in finding the right way of entering the place coordinated.

Go to a Place in the Genopro file dialog such as Right clicking on a member of the tree and selecting....

Then, Right click on the Place and the following screen will be displayed

Add the geomap coordinates and enjoy the enormous benefits of Ron's report skin.

Poolzone  a mere cog in a revolution

Thanks for the tip.

Only one question now, where do I find the geomap coordinates ?

Thanks a lot  for this, I have already found several of the places I need and I had found a few Australian  ones on another site but it doesn't have a lot of choice, only the main cities.

It's because I've not released the skin yet!

 I look forward to it's developement with interest as I might want to include it in my tree one day when it is perfected by the "experts"

I have posted an example report based on the Harry Potter familiy tree here http://familytrees.genopro.com/Ron/HarryPotter/default.htm. Most of the places in this report are in the Education narratives, so it is probably easier to use the places index and work back form the place reference to the education/occupation to see it working. The 'geocoder' does not seem to be as good as the standard Google Maps location search unfortunately. This is just a simple use at present. Next I am looking at producing a Google Map with all the tree's places on it. I hope to use place category to control which markers are displayed at each zoom level using the Google Maps API 'marker manager'. Let me know of any other wish-lists for mapping of GenoPro data.

Update: just added double-click 'center and zoom in' and double right-click 'zoom-out' to make map navigation easier.

The inclusion of Geomapping via Google Maps allows many new methods of displaying data such as ....

and we could even include a directory of thumbnails on the placeholder.

Ron's inclusion of the javascript to use Google Maps will allow a vast array of individually customised reports. There is a nice map here mapping photos taken at different locations...http://www.panoramio.com/

Poolzone  a mere cog in a revolution

Edited: Thursday, November 16, 2006 by GenoProSupport

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"εν οιδα οτι ουδεν οιδα" (Σωκρατησ)  - "The only thing that I know is that I don't know anything" (Socrates)

When I list placenams on the report, what I get it very minimal – just a list of who lived there    I’m very new to this version so maybe a little naïve, but I expected better.  Having taken the trouble to add latitude and longitude and comments (to Birkenhead), I was looking forward to see a map and the information reported, but nothing!  I have now discovered how to add pictures, and by use of the custom tags I can also add other detail.  However, a dynamic link to a mapping web site is still sadly beyond me reach.

I have managed to add maps as pictures, but not as good as http://www.google.com/maps

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/johnmather/Family/Mather/default.htm?page=toc_places.htm

How can I get the entered information repored better?. 

At this stage Genopro have thoughtfully included the fields longitude and latitude for inclusion. They were placed there as a request from a Forum member. The development of the Report Generator to output the results from this information will surely follow. In the following link click on the words above the map....LAUNCESTON MAP. If there is enough request for this it is a rough example of what we should be able to achieve on all Place names in the future. http://familytrees.genopro.com/poolzone/test/ Note: I mean a very ROUGH example.

Poolzone  a mere cog in a revolution

I believe that the best place to display the map is in the 'popup' provided by referenceing to the Place from the individual narrative. This way it can be referenced specifically to the place, whether place of birth, death marriage etcetera and the map will only be loaded one at a time as requested. Using Google or Yahoo Maps allows us to have a fully interactive map at a zoom factor that suits the end user.

For this reason, we will never have maps pre-loaded, and we can use the latitude and longitude data entered in Genopro as you have suggested.

In my latest example at http://familytrees.genopro.com/poolzone/test/ you will see by looking at the individual page for member 2B, and then accessing his place of birth, the Google Map is displayed (currently with location text box above which can be ignored).  If you look below the map, the co-ordinates are displayed from the Genopro file.

I do not have enough programming knowledge to bring these global variables from VBscript  that creates the reference to lonitude and latitude from Genopro and prints it below the map, to be used as a value within the Javascript. That is all that stops us from using the current report writer to generate a location map for any given Place entered in Genopro for which we have entered the co-ordinates.

I believe that the solution will be straight forward for a programmer of Javascript or else I'll find it in due course.

Poolzone  a mere cog in a revolution

So, have you seen all the options and description details in places...

Descriptions etc.... even Latitude and Longitude.

Only thing which might be added is option in report generator to use coordinates fields to create a hyperlink to Worldwind or Google earth ... or Streetmap if it's possible...

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"εν οιδα οτι ουδεν οιδα" (Σωκρατησ)  - "The only thing that I know is that I don't know anything" (Socrates)

I am looking forward to using the ability to map places.  Right clicking on a Place within the dialogue allows the insertion of  latitude and longitude.  I have a small sample of it's use at http://familytrees.genopro.com/poolzone/test3/ The integration is not yet dynamic, but hopefully will be able to be in the future. These maps could hopefully be inserted within the report generator via a map icon in the future.

Poolzone  a mere cog in a revolution

Thank you maru-san. I also have an example under http://familytrees.genopro.com/poolzone/test2/ using Google Maps and if I get enough time should be able to integrate coordinates using API and then insert the map on demand given any Place reference within the report. However I must balance available time against the value of the outcome.  I will further investigate "thinkgeo" as you suggest.

Poolzone  a mere cog in a revolution

BTW. Which version of genopro are you using?

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"εν οιδα οτι ουδεν οιδα" (Σωκρατησ)  - "The only thing that I know is that I don't know anything" (Socrates)