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Author Suggestions to improve the AutoArrange and solutions to leverage the AutoArrange.
Posted Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Post #5171
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Using Beta12g, you can use the option "Skip AutoArrange" while importing a Gedcom file (Menu -> File -> Import). This option will perform the Trivial AutoArrange.


Thanks! I typically load large GEDCOM reports as a result from the queries I do on the Dutch Public records, and It's hard to read those in the GenoPro. Hence I've been using html reports so far, but I am certainly going to try this out next time...!
Posted Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Post #5172
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it just aranges everything in a huge huge grid with no lines just individuals
Posted Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Post #5173
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Would be possible to set a starting date for a "main horizontal grid line" and then set how many years should correspond to a vertical step (basically a square)?

It would be wonderful if autoarrange could just put every single person in the genogram, in the row corresponding to his/her year of birth.

Much of the positioning would be decided by autoarrange just matching the birth year and the numbered grid, and the whole genogram would be more realistic.

Thank you
Posted Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Post #5174
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Wow, that's a good suggestion! Thanks. I am working on closing the release of GenoPro 2.0 (hopefully in September 2005). Your suggestion will be added later.
Posted Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Post #5175
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Hi!

I'm brand new to this forum, but I have been using GenoPro Beta (2.b13e) for a bit. I've already made a 1500 member tree working on some more.

AutoArrange is a useful item, especially when inputing a lot of new data, as it saves a lot of time between each new entry (I have been using the Family Wizard).

Would be possible to set a starting date for a "main horizontal grid line" and then set how many years should correspond to a vertical step (basically a square)?

It would be wonderful if autoarrange could just put every single person in the genogram, in the row corresponding to his/her year of birth.

Much of the positioning would be decided by autoarrange just matching the birth year and the numbered grid, and the whole genogram would be more realistic.

Thank you


I would like to point out a problem with the above idea, being that not everyone inputs the date of birth. My tree, for example, has not yet got any dates, only names, so this wouldn't help, though it could be an option that could be user defined.

One of the things that I would find useful, even before correcting all the other problems with the AutoArranger (marriage between cousins, very wide trees etc.), would be to keep all the generations on an equal level. That would automaticaly keep a neat and clean look for the whole tree.

[I would like to point out that my main reason for using this program, at this time anyway, is for the print function, which is why a nice look is important]

Thank you for a wonderful program so far and keep up the good work,

Schmuli.


Edited: Sunday, January 15, 2006 by GenoProSupport
Posted Thursday, August 18, 2005 - Post #5176
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Really great program! BigGrin

I have 2 suggestions/ requests for Autoarrange.

1. Until you get the "optimal," allow a user to select any number of people. A “straighten” function would align the horizontal centers to the average position. A “distribute” function would equally space all siblings. This would simplify tedious task of tidying up.

2. Regarding the “better AutoArrange for version 2.1,” optionally combine it with the "compress tree" feature. This would best be under preferences, where the autoarrange could be standard, tight, very tight. Choosing very tight would autoarrange, then compress it twice.

Keep up the great work!
Posted Thursday, September 8, 2005 - Post #8275
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have you given anymore concideration to the graphviz route of autoarrange

if nothing else you could do a simple report



name -> children
parrents -> name

so on and so forth

another program in linux uses graphviz ( "gramps") i think

they do something like

MR.smith -> smith marriage
mrs. smith -> smith marriage
smith marriage -> children

( creating a middle "node" for the two individual nodes to connect to)
but that would involve variable and what not i dont know if you could do that with reports (i dont know much about reports))
Posted Thursday, September 8, 2005 - Post #8276
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have you given anymore concideration to the graphviz route of autoarrange

I don't have time at the moment.  I will look at all the possibilities when I am re-doing the AutoArrange.

Posted Thursday, September 8, 2005 - Post #8277
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completely understandable... you should be pretty close now

For anyone intrested we have been having a "brain storm" session on ways to make autoarrange better.

Edited: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 by GenoProSupport

Posted Saturday, January 28, 2006 - Post #10049
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Fingers crossed v2.1 is not too long then, auto arrange is very useful but now messes up my maps which is a real shame. When I manually move items I get lines left all over the place, they look orphaned but do seem to be still connected if you try moving them individually.

Using multiple maps is interesting but there doesn't seem to be any form of connector. eg. if I have family a on 1 and b on 2 then there should be a connector (like on flowcharts) that links the two (->(A) on 1 and then (A)-> on 2) is that a bt confusing, hopefully you get the idea.

When I print, the dotted lines on the main screen bear no resemblance to the preview or final print! Also what about an overlap. If my parents appear at the bottom of page 1 then how about repeating that line at the top of page 2 so you can see where they relate?

I'm also a bit frustrated with opening gedcom files in other apps but I don't think thats a genopro error (family historian, rootsmagic, family tree maker, all moan about the gedcom file).

Great product, well worth it (and as you see I've got a few others).



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