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Posted Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - Post #9158
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The report in b15 is now looking really good, but I still have a few niggles:
  1. Any colour used in GenoPro for individuals, relationship links and marriage links is only being reproduced in the SVG picture in shades of grey. However, text boxes show the full colour.
  2. The lack of a 'relation no.' on the pedigree links results in marriages still being recorded in the wrong order when dates are not known (this, of course, has been mentioned previously - will it be in b15b?).
  3. The presentation of relationship information is now much improved, but where a couple have married and then divorced, and this is the last marriage of the individual, the relationship is still recorded as married.
  4. In the new Family Details/Marriages, if the Officiator Title is entered, but the Officiator Name is left blank, the report shows 'X and Y were married in a religious ceremony on 1-Jan-2000 by priest priest' - ie the 'priest' is repeated.
  5. I have a couple in my tree who have a long-standing relationship, but are not cohabiting (ie they live separately), and neither are they engaged as they have no intention at present of getting married. At the moment I have to describe their relationship as 'Dating / Spordic relationship', which doesn't really describe their situation. What I need is some term for their relationship - eg 'Long-term relationship'. Any other suggestions for a phrase to be included in 'Relation' on the General tab of Family Properties?


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Posted Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - Post #9161
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Any colour used in GenoPro for individuals, relationship links and marriage links is only being reproduced in the SVG picture in shades of grey. However, text boxes show the full colour.

I made sure the SVG generator was compiling.  After all the changes I made for Beta 15, the SVG generator was not working at all.  This was entirely my fault because I changed the way the marriages & divorces are stored. The SVG generator is not generating the code for the new relationships such as engagement and separation, engagement and decease, cohabitation and separation and like.  The code to generate SVG will be re-written for Beta 15b.

The lack of a 'relation no.' on the pedigree links results in marriages still being recorded in the wrong order when dates are not known (this, of course, has been mentioned previously - will it be in b15b?).

I wrote the code to include a 'relationship number' field to sort the marriages.   This technique was nor working for gay and lesbian couples, so I created a tool to change the spouse order.  The tool is simplier to use than using a 'relationship number'.

To change the order of the marriages, please double-click on one of the parent, select the Report tab and click on the button Change Spouse Order.  You will get the dialog below where you can use the Move Before and Move After buttons to change the spouse order.

In the new Family Details/Marriages, if the Officiator Title is entered, but the Officiator Name is left blank, the report shows 'X and Y were married in a religious ceremony on 1-Jan-2000 by priest priest' - ie the 'priest' is repeated.

You are right.  I corrected the phrase PhMarriage in Dictionary.xml to the following:

<PhMarriage T="{ &#32;}{\U}{0} were married[ {1}]{2}[ by [{4} ]{5}][ witnessed by {6}]." />

I have a couple in my tree who have a long-standing relationship, but are not cohabiting (ie they live separately), and neither are they engaged as they have no intention at present of getting married. At the moment I have to describe their relationship as 'Dating / Spordic relationship', which doesn't really describe their situation. What I need is some term for their relationship - eg 'Long-term relationship'. Any other suggestions for a phrase to be included in 'Relation' on the General tab of Family Properties?

Humm... I understand your point.  Does anyone knows the proper term to describe this relationship?  Are they in love?  Do they plan to have children?

Edited: Wednesday, November 9, 2005 by GenoProSupport

Posted Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - Post #9168
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I started with a 'relationship number' field to sort the marriages.  To change the order of the marriages, please double-click on one of the parent, select the Report tab and click on the button Change Spouse Order.  You will get the dialog below where you can use the Move Before and Move After buttons to change the spouse order.

OK - missed that!

Humm... I understand your point.  Does anyone knows the proper term to describe this relationship?  Are they in love?  Do they plan to have children?

In my case they are too old to have children, but they are in love.

Posted Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - Post #9170
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In my case they are too old to have children, but they are in love.

Use the relation dating... it will make them look younger and full of energy. They will love it.  My sister Estelle has been married for several years, however she calls her husband "boyfriend" because she is in love with him.  She told me she will use the word husband the day she will no longer be in love with him.

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Posted Thursday, November 10, 2005 - Post #9197
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GenoProSupport (11/9/2005)
Use the relation dating...

That is what I am already using.

However, this is a general example of a more specific case: how would you indicate the relationship of a married man with a mistress, or a married woman with a lover, which may result in offspring (viz. the former President Mitterand of France)? There is no obvious category to use in the Relation drop-down box - the 'Temporary relation / One night stand' comes closest, but the implication is of a very short-term relationship. How about 'Ex-marital relation' which could cover both short- and long-term relationships? Since this means literally 'outside of marriage' it could cover all these cases.

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Posted Thursday, November 10, 2005 - Post #9202
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I think a mistress / lover relationship should be added.
Posted Thursday, November 10, 2005 - Post #9209
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That will cover it BigGrin
Posted Thursday, November 10, 2005 - Post #9222
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On the Occupation tab, there is a new "Termination" field. One of the options is: "Still working".

Why not making the same thing on the Education tab, and to have an option such as: "Still studying".?

Posted Thursday, November 10, 2005 - Post #9224
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Why not making the same thing on the Education tab, and to have an option such as: "Still studying".?

GenoPro has the education option Still Attending.  I thought the word attending would be better than studying for education.

Posted Thursday, November 10, 2005 - Post #9225
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oh - I havn't noticed that this option exists. Thank you.


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