GenoPro Support Forum

1. Any colour used in GenoPro for individuals, relationship links and marriage links is only being reproduced in the SVG picture in shades of grey. However, text boxes show the full colour.
2. The lack of a 'relation no.' on the pedigree links results in marriages still being recorded in the wrong order when dates are not known (this, of course, has been mentioned previously - will it be in b15b?).
3. The presentation of relationship information is now much improved, but where a couple have married and then divorced, and this is the last marriage of the individual, the relationship is still recorded as married.
4. In the new Family Details/Marriages, if the Officiator Title is entered, but the Officiator Name is left blank, the report shows 'X and Y were married in a religious ceremony on 1-Jan-2000 by priest priest' - ie the 'priest' is repeated.
5. I have a couple in my tree who have a long-standing relationship, but are not cohabiting (ie they live separately), and neither are they engaged as they have no intention at present of getting married. At the moment I have to describe their relationship as 'Dating / Spordic relationship', which doesn't really describe their situation. What I need is some term for their relationship - eg 'Long-term relationship'. Any other suggestions for a phrase to be included in 'Relation' on the General tab of Family Properties?

I made sure the SVG generator was compiling.  After all the changes I made for Beta 15, the SVG generator was not working at all.  This was entirely my fault because I changed the way the marriages & divorces are stored. The SVG generator is not generating the code for the new relationships such as engagement and separation, engagement and decease, cohabitation and separation and like.  The code to generate SVG will be re-written for Beta 15b.

I wrote the code to include a 'relationship number' field to sort the marriages.   This technique was nor working for gay and lesbian couples, so I created a tool to change the spouse order.  The tool is simplier to use than using a 'relationship number'.

To change the order of the marriages, please double-click on one of the parent, select the Report tab and click on the button Change Spouse Order.  You will get the dialog below where you can use the Move Before and Move After buttons to change the spouse order.

You are right.  I corrected the phrase PhMarriage in Dictionary.xml to the following:

Humm... I understand your point.  Does anyone knows the proper term to describe this relationship?  Are they in love?  Do they plan to have children?

Edited: Wednesday, November 9, 2005 by GenoProSupport

OK - missed that!

In my case they are too old to have children, but they are in love.

Use the relation dating... it will make them look younger and full of energy. They will love it.  My sister Estelle has been married for several years, however she calls her husband "boyfriend" because she is in love with him.  She told me she will use the word husband the day she will no longer be in love with him.

Edited: Wednesday, November 9, 2005 by GenoProSupport

That is what I am already using.

However, this is a general example of a more specific case: how would you indicate the relationship of a married man with a mistress, or a married woman with a lover, which may result in offspring (viz. the former President Mitterand of France)? There is no obvious category to use in the Relation drop-down box - the 'Temporary relation / One night stand' comes closest, but the implication is of a very short-term relationship. How about 'Ex-marital relation' which could cover both short- and long-term relationships? Since this means literally 'outside of marriage' it could cover all these cases.

Edited: Thursday, November 10, 2005 by GenoProSupport

If you think that, why is it that it has still not been added after more than 9 months?

I also, like the user above, miss the relationship option "long-term relationship". If the trouble is what to call it, then why not simply call it "long term relationship"? Or what about steady (or permanent) relationship or "committed relationship"? I personally prefer "long-term relationship" or "committed relationship".

I completely forgot about it.  I have noted the following 3 relationships to my "todo" list:

1. Concubinage
2. Mistress/lover
3. Long term relationship/committed relationship

I need to find a symbol to draw there relationships and we are ready to go .

Are you still working on this? Or have you forgotten it again  Now there have been two updates since you wrote this and it has still not been added.

I have changed the drawing of the family relationships to draw a house for cohabitation.

I discussed this topic once before, and I cannot agree that cohabitation and long-term relationship are essentially the same, although there may be some overlap. The Wikipedia definition of cohabitation is:

Cohabitation is defined as an emotional, physical, and intellectually intimate relationship which includes a common living place and which exists without the benefit of legal, cultural, or religious sanction

The important qualification here is a common living place, which is not necessary for a long-term relationship. I think Ron's discussion on this point was very well put.

An intimate relationship is an interpersonal relationship with a great deal of physical and/or emotional intimacy. It is usually characterized by romantic or passionate love and attachment. Sexuality may or may not be involved.

This could potentially cover both short-term and long-term relationships.

How about a dashed black line, maybe with dots for concubinage, since it is often an inferior form of marriage.  The committed relationship could be a solid blue line.  I just don't know about the mistress lover though.

Edited: Saturday, September 2, 2006 by Reddy

Why not making the same thing on the Education tab, and to have an option such as: "Still studying".?

GenoPro has the education option Still Attending.  I thought the word attending would be better than studying for education.